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2 teenagers carry out a suicide pact in Karachi school, because their parents didn't let them get married to each other. Killing yourself is not the solution to anything... but parents also need to understand that they can't just enforce their decisions on their children while completely ignoring their emotions. Children/teenagers are immature and are emotional, but it is their life and they should be able to spend it with whomever they want... such family pressure only leads to this... what do you say?
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2 teenagers carry out a suicide pact in Karachi school, because their parents didn't let them get married to each other. Killing yourself is not the solution to anything... but parents also need to understand that they can't just enforce their decisions on their children while completely ignoring their emotions. Children/teenagers are immature and are emotional, but it is their life and they should be able to spend it with whomever they want... such family pressure only leads to this... what do you say?
"Children/teenagers are immature and are emotional, but it is their life and they should be able to spend it with whomever they want."

You say they are immature on one hand and then you advocate that they should be able to spend their life with whomever they want on the other hand. How can immature kids decide who should they spend their whole life with? Though this can happen if they're independent financially; it is logical then. Besides, one has to be a fool to think of marriage and love in their matric--that's the time when you should have studies and enjoyment on your mind only! LOL
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this is the Fault of Our Foolish Media because they are creating False propaganda, our media first aim is to earning of money money money and money. they can do everything for Money and Wealth. Our Govt Should order to Pakistani Newspaper that they will not published Indian/Bollywood news in their newspaper page while it is not necessary for us if we don't know about current news of Bollywood. India is our enemy but We avidly watch Indian movies. we are also responsible,
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What else can we expect from teenagers in a society whose media preach "Love stories" as top most priority today! Gone are the days when TV dramas were source of beautiful messages! Today 99.9% TV dramas and movies revolve around marriage, divorce and love affairs which are seen by majority of Pakistani audience. Suicides, murders, physical abuse and divorce rates in Pakistan are making new records!

Why can't our producers make dramas and movies on moral lessons, justice, truth, honesty, family values, islamic teachings, patriotism, Pakistani culture etc? When media daily give you a dose that hero is one who dies for the sake of love then such incidents would definetly happen....

Social media has connected people sitting miles away but disconnected those sitting in same home! Parents dont have time to teach their children the realities and purpose of life! Teachers are no more the spiritual parents now but just course instructors who have no interest in well being of children's life! We are making such vulgar movies to compete India that no noble person can sit with family to watch them. Whole society is moving towards blind end! The more outspoken a kid is, the more confident he is considered. Future looks scary! Who will bring this system on right track...... How will we eradicate these social diseases......?
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Parents, State and society failed to protect children.In modern age children are vulnerable to variety of temptations. It's the job of state to minimise their vulnerabilities. Parents are suppose to steer their children out of emotional imbalances and it's the duty of our educational system to inculcate the analytical skills into minds of children so that they are not trapped in emotional imbalances.

State failed because our media is flooded with immoral and unnatural content. Society failed because they erected the wall between Ismaili community and others.Parents failed because they couldn't gauge the crisis through which their children were passing hence they were unable to propose solutions to their children.
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What else can we expect from teenagers in a society whose media preach "Love stories" as top most priority today! Gone are the days when TV dramas were source of beautiful messages! Today 99.9% TV dramas and movies revolve around marriage, divorce and love affairs which are seen by majority of Pakistani audience. Suicides, murders, physical abuse and divorce rates in Pakistan are making new records!

Why can't our producers make dramas and movies on moral lessons, justice, truth, honesty, family values, islamic teachings, patriotism, Pakistani culture etc? When media daily give you a dose that hero is one who dies for the sake of love then such incidents would definetly happen....

Social media has connected people sitting miles away but disconnected those sitting in same home! Parents dont have time to teach their children the realities and purpose of life! Teachers are no more the spiritual parents now but just course instructors who have no interest in well being of children's life! We are making such vulgar movies to compete India that no noble person can sit with family to watch them. Whole society is moving towards blind end! The more outspoken a kid is, the more confident he is considered. Future looks scary! Who will bring this system on right track...... How will we eradicate these social diseases......?
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"Children/teenagers are immature and are emotional, but it is their life and they should be able to spend it with whomever they want."

You say they are immature on one hand and then you advocate that they should be able to spend their life with whomever they want on the other hand. How can immature kids decide who should they spend their whole life with? Though this can happen if they're independent financially; it is logical then. Besides, one has to be a fool to think of marriage and love in their matric--that's the time when you should have studies and enjoyment on your mind only! LOL
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2 teenagers carry out a suicide pact in Karachi school, because their parents didn't let them get married to each other. Killing yourself is not the solution to anything... but parents also need to understand that they can't just enforce their decisions on their children while completely ignoring their emotions. Children/teenagers are immature and are emotional, but it is their life and they should be able to spend it with
whomever they want... such family pressure only leads to this... what do you say?
It's the sole duty of parents to act as a watchdog for their children. The children shouldn't be allowed to sleep late at night and sit for a long time in front of TV and use internet without any reason and supervision especially in the very age of growing. The most awful thing is the "night packages" which have made it easier for teenagers to indulge in unIslamic and bad activities. To me, both parents and their children are responsible. Here, we have also seen a security lapse as well because the girl had easily taken the gun of her father to school. It has two meanings: Whether the security of the school was sleeping or they have agreed on terms with that girl for money. While the parents had rightly forbid them. How could they predict that the boy would be able to get a good job, become a good person or not in years to come ? Asking for a marriage so early is senseless. This so called love is nothing more than a lusty time pass. Contrary to it, if for the sake of argument let's say if both truly love each other, then they should have wait to get mature, stand on their feet and then send a proposal in a decent way. It's very sad to read such horrible news. How could you say that the children should have a liberty to spend their lives as per their desire ? I disagree with you. If this will start happening, I wonder each teenager would never become a civilized person and nation as whole will suffer. The parents reserve the right to impose their decisions on their children because whatsoever they do, they do for the betterment and uprightness of children. The children are supposed to obey them as well except if they stop them to bow before Almighty ALLAH.

I second what daisy has said. Now, the story of the dramas is so pathetic and even below the minimum standards of ethics. By showing the new ways of telling lies and deceiving the parents if they don't agree on terms as per the wish, teenagers and even our age group is distracting from the right path. Having said that, media is considered the fourth pillar of the state but even then it has forgotten its key responsibility to broadcast the right thing by keeping the ethical standards generally and Islamic teachings particularly. I appreciate the decision of PEMRA not to telecast anti-Pakistani speeches of Altaf Hussain at the same time it's the dire need of the hour that PEMRA should ponder over what is being shown on dramas and Lollywood's vulgarity to revive Pakistan's film industry.

The parents shouldn't be too lenient and strict concurrently. They should keep record of the activities of their children. I believe that to whom the much is given, the much is expected. Being a Muslim and citizen of an Islamic Republic we have dual responsibilities. We should practice the teachings of Islam in true letter and spirit to cure this disease.

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Technology is also an factor... To me.. Parents could also be busy in computers , mobile phones etc.... This incident is mainly due to communication gap between parents and children.... in old ages (lesser technology) we used to spend more time with our family and parents. We used to share things with each other... Now everyone is busy with there own life... parents only ordered that they can not be got married.... understanding by the parents and advising could be a factor... and this is not the fault of parents... not media... not children.... no one solely is responsible .... it's overall society and change of technology that this incident has happened.
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The children had definitely been obsessed by bollywood as evident in their last notes which itself is a controversy because both the letters are written in same handwriting. But to blame media wholely and solely for this incident is not fair. Not even unhampered islamisation can guarantee emotionless and feelingless kids. ''Kachi matti to mehkegi ye matti ki majburi.'' What they did was wrong, but, the media is the part of problem not the heart of problem. Lack of communication between the teenagers and the parents, the media, the unchecked weapons supply and its reach to children are the leading causes. Where love is taboo, people in love would do strange things.
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I Said That Parents are not responsible for any activities of their children. the other factors are completely responsible. i saw a lot of people who grew without parents and then became world successful Man.. the reason which is destroying our society is Pakistani Media Like Internet/Facebook. Indian typical type movies, Low Mobile packages, pakistani Tv Dramas because their only purpose is "LOVE" while they have no other topics which will be show to public/viewers. Co-Education,
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