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why do we only ponder over the negative aspect of the technology?
we must not forget that these packages r in fact very necessary, and beneficial.
all those who r married couples and serving in out station jobs i.e army other jobs training they have chance to talk, and keep communication strong.

moreover, more communication, less conflict and vice versa!

now who has got problem with night calls! either who mis use or respectable legislature of Punjab assembly who herself seemed to have broken from such packages and later on became jealous of others!

take the statistics of even css in spite of these packages more candidates got qualified!
every new change has its own good and bad, moreover it does has pressure.
those who will carry away with this new change. will be replaced with new and more confident and steadfast one.
even some foolish had objected and restricted the invention of train and airplane!
yet we have who object and cry against polio drops!

they lady who forwarded the resolution is simply a psycho case and jealous of all that she had been doing with these packages.

i personally feel these package very useful.

my people even teach through these packages, solve their family problems.
if punjab legislature steal credit card it is wrong with technology or honorable legislature.

moreover, competition is alway there, those who stand with the pressure and allurement and temptation will survive other will perish! population is more seats are always less.
this is also one way of rationing!

one who can not overcome this temptation, let them carry away and replace them with people of character and steadfastness!
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@ Crown Prince.
I agree with all of your points, like responsibility of government, and that banning it will not "will our society will leap into the era of peace and prosperity?"
But this you are talking in ideal terms. I mean ideally when government cant do this for many many reasons or it does not do this for many reasons, discussed almost every where. So in that case some alternatives which may be implemented are adopted.

And about this point "will our society will leap into the era of peace and prosperity?"

some days back some one in the thread of dividing Punjab into smaller provinces or renaming of NWFP asked the same thing. that will renaming bring prosperity and solve the problems. the same is here.
I want to ask, "did restoration of judges lead Pakistan to prosperity" did restoration of democracy or exit of Musharraf solved the problems?" "Will 18th Amendment solve all problems?" The answer to all this is certainly "BIG NO" SO by saying this all that everything is not ideal and that small things do bring small changes. BUt this does not mean that such small things not be done because they individually not leap our society to era of prosperity and peace. Here I am not saying this whether packages be banned or not, Although I am in favor of that. The purpose of saying all this was to explain that the argument you gave "about leap to era of prosperity " is not fit for any governmental act. then does it mean nothing should be done? not even release of missing persons solve the problems of Pakistan as whole. should that not be done? So instead of using magic of words, explain that with arguments based on simple words and not emotions.

Well I am really really sorry, although I tried my best to make my words light but it seems I could not. Please accept my Sorry in advance if my post created any annoyance but I assure you I did not mean that.
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I mean people have problem with mobile package than get rid of the mobile phones. If your younger brother is using the night package than why to blame the company just take away the mobile from them.

It is just like instead of stopping kids from watching cable we all blame the cable network or you should use parental control... same is with the internet.
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cellular companies can offer cheap rate packages during day time..night packages are simply exloiting our youth...parents cannot check their children all the time...students living in hostls are biggest victims of this disease...
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I mean people have problem with mobile package than get rid of the mobile phones. If your younger brother is using the night package than why to blame the company just take away the mobile from them.
You are talking two extremes. it's like if ideal can not be achieved then destroy the whole thing.
Human beings are week and they easily follow negative things (attitude, behavior) because they are attractive and because they are being stopped from doing that. This is some thing Adam committed and....
In my "professional Issues In IT" class I am quoting a line from the lecture slides hope it will help you understand what I want to say.

" Why is the Need of Law: Laws are made to force people to be good because individuals are more controlled by their passion and education alone cant make them good"
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my fellows are right by saying that use of technology can make it a blessing or otherwise..but now it has become clear that these packages are harmful for the young generation...love is not every thing in ones life...marriage is not the only issue of the present world...now every young boy thinking himself as a hero,&every lass is posing herself as a heroinesuch a nonsense atitude it is...
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You are talking two extremes. it's like if ideal can not be achieved then destroy the whole thing.
Human beings are week and they easily follow negative things (attitude, behavior) because they are attractive and because they are being stopped from doing that. This is some thing Adam committed and....
In my "professional Issues In IT" class I am quoting a line from the lecture slides hope it will help you understand what I want to say.

" Why is the Need of Law: Laws are made to force people to be good because individuals are more controlled by their passion and education alone cant make them good"
than i think there should be another law that stops people for using internet at night ..... because we are weak human beings !! i hope u got my point....

I mean why not change you own self instead of blaming some one else.
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abolishing the low call rate packages is not the solution for the stuff happening around us....it is because of lack of parental advice and control....the parents who hand over cell phones to their young kids are responsible for the misuse that we see around us..

if we are to agree on this issue than technically on the similar grounds we would need to abolish co-education, different academies, internet etc .. perhaps we all need to go back to cave-ages :P...
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than i think there should be another law that stops people for using internet at night ..... because we are weak human beings !! i hope u got my point....
well there cant be just one solution for a problem. Yes I do agree with this that there must be a law censorship as it is in China or KSA. Which really helps people, parents from many bad things. But again as I mentioned earlier if one thing can't be achieved it does not mean that you should leave it. Small objectives have small targets. Banning or modifying night packages can solve some problems, so it should be, and by censoring internet contents may solve some problems so that too should be. For censorship on internet you may start an other thread for discussion about this, in order to adhere to the main topic.

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I do think that if some thing can not be achieved by majority of the parents by education and teaching then its not fault of parents but its fault of those things present in our surrounding which attract us and so they should be controlled by respective authorities.

And about co-education, academies, such things, we have to see the balance of pros and cons, and then decide. and also we have to see is that implementable, if not then how can that be done. banning packages is implementable so it may be discussed, abolishing co-education, internet and etc is not implementable so no need to discuss. however some improvements can be introduced through some law or education
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abolishing the low call rate packages is not the solution for the stuff happening around us....it is because of lack of parental advice and control....the parents who hand over cell phones to their young kids are responsible for the misuse that we see around us..

if we are to agree on this issue than technically on the similar grounds we would need to abolish co-education, different academies, internet etc .. perhaps we all need to go back to cave-ages :P...
bravooooo @umarabbas

i mean that what i saying when there was only mobilink network and the call rate was 9 rs a minute, we still used to talk all night with our love ones ;-) ...
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