Originally Posted by Natashaaa

it's futile arguing with an illogical person. i don't understand how anyone can be a taliban advocate knowing the atrocities committed by them. they should be wiped off the face of pakistan. we want a peaceful country where there is rule of law, and prosperity. we are not advocates of taliban insurgency and nor do we want a 'state within a state', where a group of armed men force their will onto others.

Originally Posted by Bilal Hassan

What do you know about Taliban? He is a person who lost his one eye in a Allah's cause, he lost his 7 year son and buried his gruesome remains with his own very hands when he was killed in Bombardment, he had no personal account to be squared with Russia nor he has any with Americans, he is fighting in the way of Allah

Originally Posted by Bilal Hassan

sister Natasha, i always address you by calling sister but you never try to be polite and respectful which is the linchpin to have a healthy discussion...
Anyways i have very very aptly answered all your queries in above posts..
HERE i would like to talk about your objections to Taliban?
What do you know about Taliban? Do you know Mulla Umar Mujahid? His background? He is a person who lost his one eye in a Allah's cause, he lost his 7 year son and buried his gruesome remains with his own very hands when he was killed in Bombardment, he had no personal account to be squared with Russia nor he has any with Americans, he is fighting in the way of Allah so that Islam wins and Muslims can live according to the orders of almighty Allah...He was offered Billions of Dollars in return of leaving the fight that he denied saying that money is maid that lures the non believers not me...
Do you know Gulbadin Hikmatyar?certainly you won't...He has fought in more than a hundred battles leading from the front, He was in Power when Taliban decided to destroy the Budha's statue in Bamiyan, he was offered million dollars and infrastructure development that he kicked and said, we are the sons of Ghaznavis, we can destroy these idols but can't sell them...
Do you know who Sirraj ud din HAqqani is?certainly you wont..His father jalal ud din Haqqani was the commander of haqqani group of Talibs, General Akhtar Abd ur Rehman asked him to accept 50 Million Rupees in return of fighting as a mercenary for Pak Army, he said : Sir, Pakistan is a Muslim country, it is our duty to guard our Muslim brothers, we don't need money for that...
so think twice before speaking any shit against those true Muslims and this controversy is fabricated to pressurize Pak Army to launch an assault against Haqqanis in NOrth waziristan...That won't happen as Pak Army is weise enough not to lose their valuable assets for invaluable Malala...

Originally Posted by mhmmdkashif

Americans are no longer pushing Pakistan Army to take any action, your 'pious men' are busy 'secretly negotiating' with them directly, keep yourself up to date. They have setup an office in Qatar for the purpose.

Originally Posted by Natashaaa

it's futile arguing with an illogical person. i don't understand how anyone can be a taliban advocate knowing the atrocities committed by them. they should be wiped off the face of pakistan. we want a peaceful country where there is rule of law, and prosperity. we are not advocates of taliban insurgency and nor do we want a 'state within a state', where a group of armed men force their will onto others.

Originally Posted by Hassan02

So Mullah Umer is leading a gang of criminals in the name of Allah? Innocents are massacred in Afghanistan in the name of Allah?

Originally Posted by Hassan02

Were you his accountant back in the day?

Originally Posted by Hassan02

So now Mehmud Ghaznavi, a plunderer and a looter is a Islamic hero? I don't what kind of Islam you follow, but there is no place for murderers, rapists and pillagers in the real Islam, the religion of peace.

Originally Posted by Hassan02

Ah yes, another true Muslim who massacres innocents in the name of Allah.




I suggest you cut back on the abuses.




People like Malala are in fact "valuable assets", not savages who spread terror in the name of Islam. What have these "true Muslims" ever achieved? We completely twisted Islam, a religion of peace, to achieve our goals in the the Afghan War and we are now paying the price.



Ironically, Pakistan is by far the biggest loser of all at this time. The chickens have come home to roost....

Originally Posted by Bilal Hassan

Zabih Ullah Mujahid, the spokesman for Taliban has already said that the Qatar negotiations are already ended in vain, Hikmatyar and Haqani group has showed their concerns about the talks and Mullah Umer says he cannot close a deal without the consent of the brothers who fought against the Americans with him...You keep yourself updated sir....

Originally Posted by Natashaaa

1) why don't you replace ehsanullah ehsan, im sure you'll do a better job defending the heinous crimes of the taliban as their spokesperson, forcing women to wear burqas, blowing up girls' schools, target killing of shias, not allowing women out of their houses? you think that's islam?

2) i didn't ask you to write me an essay on taliban, i am a taliban hater and i am a very much against drone attacks too. Mullah Umar is a lunatic who's slaying innocent men, women and children and THAT MY FRIEND IS NOT ISLAM! Holy Prohpet (pbuh) was against the killing of children in case you didn't know.
my question is WHO GIVES him the right to force his version of islam on people, when Allah swt has given us free will. kidnapping people for ransom, slaying people is not islam!!!!

3) this thread was mainly about Malala: you have been beating about the bush and your previous posts are mere accusations. you havent stated one plausible reason why any sane person would think of malala as 'promoting western values'.. she has a right to education given to her by islam! and if it is about her liking barack obama and blogging on BBC then you need to seriously seriously need to grow up!

4) And fourthly, refrain from using slang and offensive language!

Originally Posted by Natashaaa

it's futile arguing with an illogical person. i don't understand how anyone can be a taliban advocate knowing the atrocities committed by them. they should be wiped off the face of pakistan. we want a peaceful country where there is rule of law, and prosperity. we are not advocates of taliban insurgency and nor do we want a 'state within a state', where a group of armed men force their will onto others.

Originally Posted by Call for Change

I am literally depressed after reading his posts. If educated people are advocating taliban and mullah umer is their hero the future of Pakistan is bleak and dark. they are closing the face of tunnel with the stones of their hatred and fanaticism and not letting the rays of hope , love and peace enter into the tunnel. May Allah bless us and May Allah save this country from such hard liners who are not willing to accept difference of opinion.

I am ending this discussion. Because there is no point to discuss.

Originally Posted by mhmmdkashif

'ended in vain' means they did negotiate but couldn't settle on terms or something, didn't they, they are not so 'clean' after all.... how can you be so sure they aren't doing it now, do you work for them . Some sources are citing these negotiations are causing anxiety among Afghan forces who are now attacking foreign forces more than Taliban.

Originally Posted by Bilal Hassan

yes if deal is not closing on your terms then there is no benefit in talking further, how can you be damn sure that they are doing it either? do you work for them? foreign forces? what do you mean, i think there are only three powers in Afghanistan Taliban, Northern Alliance and NATO, Northern Alliance is pro American, which foreign power are you talking about now?