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I think NTS is far far better than FPSC,PPSC because of following reasons

1-NTS is quick in service wheras FPSC is slow(sometimes its wait ruins the time and career of the applicant
2-There is a least chance of cheating in NTS where as FPSC is a hub of cheaters and gamers
3-NTS prepares an up to date paper their mcq's are vast and it really check all the aspects of individual whereas FPSC is a dump organization which usually gives 5 years old mcqs of GK and Pak affairs in other papers

In short NTS is far approach to check the intellect
furthermore its the request of client like MOD who doesnt want to display their marks...and offcourse FPSC always didnt display the marks
SO NTS is far far better then these old ways and techniques by FPSC
Dear about up to date: today i gave ptcl intern test. Guess what comp mcqs were repeated in last 2 diff exms which i went for, even half of electrical were repeated! One of my friend has given many tests of nts esp last 15-20. While going to test hel told me atleast 10 mcqs with their options and exactly same mcqs were there! And its not guess its they are repeating same questons again and again!
So least it isnt up to date
Plus also not reputed!

Yeah they dont allow cheating in halls but they do cheat in marks! And This is for sure!!

I got 61 marks in ogdcl test although mr friends and othe people have much less marks, but still after result i said NTS is shit! Bs majbori hy k har ad es k thru araha hy due to MUK-MUKA. Warna NTS ku m dekhta b na.
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Dear about up to date: today i gave ptcl intern test. Guess what comp mcqs were repeated in last 2 diff exms which i went for, even half of electrical were repeated! One of my friend has given many tests of nts esp last 15-20. While going to test hel told me atleast 10 mcqs with their options and exactly same mcqs were there! And its not guess its they are repeating same questons again and again!
So least it isnt up to date
Plus also not reputed!

Yeah they dont allow cheating in halls but they do cheat in marks! And This is for sure!!

I got 61 marks in ogdcl test although mr friends and othe people have much less marks, but still after result i said NTS is shit! Bs majbori hy k har ad es k thru araha hy due to MUK-MUKA. Warna NTS ku m dekhta b na.
I have observed one thing that NTS always play copy and paste game. you guys might have noticed that NTS copy material from different website and not even changing the sequence of the objectives ... and you say NTS is credibe, reputable, competent, capable, efficient etc. Please take a deep breath and think how NTS is playing with the future of the candidates. Please.
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at least not reputable ... pardon me sir. Yes FPSC is credible, PPSC etc. but NTS is not reputable. NTS should at least share the score with the candidates those appearing in the test and also provide carbon copy of objective test. NTS is nothing other than a business run service .. generating millions of rupees from a single test and in the end they say you have failed and you have been short listed for next stage ... NTS, my foot!
It is not reputable then how comes apex national institutions such as Intelligence agencies, NAB, FIA and Judiciary are hiring through NTS? This superior national security institution is hiring its officers via not-reputable organization?

NTS is reputable, credible and meritorious testing organization. Sharing of score and syllabus is not mandate of NTS, in last batch NTS also didn't announced score of candidates, it is because of MOD policy.

Charging higher fees is the only weak point of NTS which was discussed in the Senate.

NTS and FPSC are both transparent organizations but NTS is swift and prompt in its process. whereas, FPSC is lackadaisical, lazy and bureaucratic type institution.
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I have observed one thing that NTS always play copy and paste game. you guys might have noticed that NTS copy material from different website and not even changing the sequence of the objectives ... and you say NTS is credibe, reputable, competent, capable, efficient etc. Please take a deep breath and think how NTS is playing with the future of the candidates. Please.
Agreed!

Nts m aur b buhat s khaty hain meray bhai!
I can show u people, who can give you marks as much money you pay! But bat ajati hy haram/halal ki... thats why i say to myself lets leave it to Luck.

Well this debate is disturbing the selected candidates.

Yes for psychometric test, do get info from army/paf etc people its same kinda issb psychological test and the defence need specific mind people! Be careful for that.

Wish you best of luck guys! May you all be succeeded
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It is not reputable then how comes apex national institutions such as Intelligence agencies, NAB, FIA and Judiciary are hiring through NTS? This superior national security institution is hiring its officers via not-reputable organization?

NTS is reputable, credible and meritorious testing organization. Sharing of score and syllabus is not mandate of NTS, in last batch NTS also didn't announced score of candidates, it is because of MOD policy.

Charging higher fees is the only weak point of NTS which was discussed in the Senate.

NTS and FPSC are both transparent organizations but NTS is swift and prompt in its process. whereas, FPSC is lackadaisical, lazy and bureaucratic type institution.
I couldn't agree more. You sir had summarized and concluded the whole FPSC-NTS debate very subtly and precisely.
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NTS is the only hope for lower middle class candidates. Without NTS we would have applied either through FPSC, which is transparent, but takes years in completion of recruitment projects or through exams conducted by departments themselves where again favoritism, nepotism and bribery would have been big hurdles.

FPSC and NTS are both very good organizations in the atmosphere where corruption dwells, however, FPSC needs reforms to carry out its process in quick way.
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at least not reputable ... pardon me sir. Yes FPSC is credible, PPSC etc. but NTS is not reputable. NTS should at least share the score with the candidates those appearing in the test and also provide carbon copy of objective test. NTS is nothing other than a business run service .. generating millions of rupees from a single test and in the end they say you have failed and you have been short listed for next stage ... NTS, my foot!
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You call it reputable just because they have shortlisted you and many others like you, lets be neutral and realistic for a moment if you were not selected you wouldn't have said it, Nothing is Reputable in this country "Sad but true" so at least say something that makes sense... no offence to the selected ones.. but please just because you're among the selected ones doesn't make the organization reputable... Nobody knows about the scores nobody knows about the cut off merit... this is what makes the whole process biased...
P.S even if i was among the selected ones my stance would not have changed even a bit about the whole bloody process.
If you people don't have trust in NTS, then why you people are apply through NTS and waste your money.
PPSC and FPSC are responsible for conducting test, interviews and hand over the list of selected candidates to parent department while NTS is only testing agency and responsible for conducting tests and forward the result to client(and upload on NTS website if client allows).

NTS, PPSC and FPSC are all reputable. But as far as credibility and management is concerned, NTS is far better than any other testing agency. They provide you answer keys some times, provide result in fastest possible time. The drawback of NTS is its paper pattern/contents(sometimes) and large fee for test.

I am not defending NTS because i am shortlisted, i always have the same views about NTS and you may see my previous posts i had always in favor of NTS. But it is common practice that we people start cursing the testing agency which fails us. Few days earlier people are saying same things about FPSC when result of preventive and Appraiser announced and wants NTS to conduct tests.

In short if someone does not believe in something, he/she simply don't go for it. Its of no use to curse testing agencies when you don't have the capability to pass the test.
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You call it reputable just because they have shortlisted you and many others like you, lets be neutral and realistic for a moment if you were not selected you wouldn't have said it, Nothing is Reputable in this country "Sad but true" so at least say something that makes sense... no offence to the selected ones.. but please just because you're among the selected ones doesn't make the organization reputable... Nobody knows about the scores nobody knows about the cut off merit... this is what makes the whole process biased...

P.S even if i was among the selected ones my stance would not have changed even a bit about the whole bloody process.
I am really disappointed from your remarks. I have passed many tests from NTS and Commission and failed many as well. Right now am a Govt. Servant. And Believe me I would never blame NTS for my failure in such a way.

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Dear Friends, we all need to look down our throats for a moment, that if i failed this test then what went wrong...??? the biggest problem with pakistani people is they never bother to evaluate themselves, i can definitely say that if a person has failed in a competition then it is must that there was some flaw in his preparation, so dears we definitely need to evaluate ourselves instead of blaming the testing agencies. Its no one Else's fault but our own, also remember that every failure is a step towards success, so lets call it a day and move forward..... the world doesn't end at MOD. My condolences for all who couldn't make through the initial phase, i can understand that every one of you tried your best to pass this test and its highly appreciated. Now its time to rectify our previous mistakes and learn from them... God Bless you All...
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If you people don't have trust in NTS, then why you people are apply through NTS and waste your money.
PPSC and FPSC are responsible for conducting test, interviews and hand over the list of selected candidates to parent department while NTS is only testing agency and responsible for conducting tests and forward the result to client(and upload on NTS website if client allows).

NTS, PPSC and FPSC are all reputable. But as far as credibility and management is concerned, NTS is far better than any other testing agency. They provide you answer keys some times, provide result in fastest possible time. The drawback of NTS is its paper pattern/contents(sometimes) and large fee for test.

I am not defending NTS because i am shortlisted, i always have the same views about NTS and you may see my previous posts i had always in favor of NTS. But it is common practice that we people start cursing the testing agency which fails us. Few days earlier people are saying same things about FPSC when result of preventive and Appraiser announced and wants NTS to conduct tests.

In short if someone does not believe in something, he/she simply don't go for it. Its of no use to curse testing agencies when you don't have the capability to pass the test.
Brother there are so many grammatical mistakes. Which clearly indicates how reputable and transparent it is. Truth speaks for itself.
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