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Same old mantra of deliberately made failed in sindh essay and I.history.Each year thousands of aspirants are failed in English essay nd composition papers in css and pms .how abt them?aren't they deliberately failed?In CE 16, 94% candidates failed town planning and urban management.shouldn't their exam be reconducted?Brother,this slaughtering trend exists in all competitive exams ,CCE 13 is not an exception.
Nab's inquiry into cce13 related matters is in process,it would find out all the corrupt acts related to cce including ur claim of deliberately declaring u fail in Sindhi essay.Secondly,court has already checked copies and interview record of candidates.If there are even meagre signs of malpractice in process,lfinal judgement would certainly reflect them and the victims would be given chance.
Declaring exam null and void is a rare possibility.court wouldn't play with the future of those candidates who are comparatively ahead of others in this competitive exam.However,reinterviews will be the most likely if things go worst against final allocattees.
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Dear if many students fail in CSS written part or in exams then many also do fail in viva voce so your argument is vogue itself. Actually nobody complain against FPSC because of its transparency and neutrality. However in CCE 2013 written part so many students cried and claimed about malpractice.
Again I want to clear my point of concern that either court or NAB must go through the written part also and if they find anything wrong then they must ask for reconduct of written part but if they do not find anything at all regarding written then they ask for re-interview process.
I think you shouldn't have any objection for this. For you kind information I want to tell you that I was not failed in written/Sindhi paper. Its not my personal matter. I just demand for justice and merit from the very beginning as far as CCE 2013 is concerned
I also wish and demand Justice. Retd. Agha Rafique to be back again as an SPSC chairman.
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Yes standard of interviews was not of the level of combine competitive exam,but it was same for all.All of the candidates faced the same situation.I was taunted and laughed at twice or thrice by panel.when I answered most of the questions asked by chairman, bukhari and madam Narejo ,Bhatti started asking me questions from Urdu literature which was neither my optional nor I chose it in compulsory.They made my fun to test my nerves,I controlled my nerves and remained composed through out the interview.This is the story of almost every interviewee.
Of course,I feel sorry for those 15 to 20 friends whose scores are outstanding but they couldn't make their place in final allocations but this also a fact that more than 200 people with good scores have been successful.this happens even in css and PMS.
Another interesting thing,sindh govt is not helping cce 13 designates in this case.Instead,A.G sindh has spoiled our case from the very first day.Had the govt got their people allocated in these 227 ,it would have tried its level best to defend us in court.In last hearing,a counsel presented a list of 45 written qualified candidates who were relatives of politicians,members,high officials but couldn't make their place in final list.
One of the reasons of govt's such attitude towards us is the fact that its people are not among us.
Brother,most of the allocated candidates will happily go for reinterviews but again there is no certainity that new body will ensure merit.I believe,most of these 227 candidates belong to middle class families who spent years preparing for competitive exams.Many have resigned from their previous services after receiving offer orders for the posts allocated through cce 13, in case of reinterviews how can they be compensated?
I appreciate SC's efforts to set SPSC things on right path.At least, better things can be expected from SPSc from now onwards. On the matter of CCE 13,court should order something which may ensure merit and save time of aspirants.
Final judgment is expected in next week.
Sure, waiting for final judgment seems better treatment for all.
However, forcing former Chairman SPSC Mr. Agha Rafique Pathan through undue influences was not good step by the Government towards transparency.
Again, there were many irregularities made by the previous commission that can't be denied. As per new interview committee, first of all the members will be qualified and eligible atleast so those who are qualified will not involve in mal-practices. Secondly, this time the committee will definitely be keeping accountability in their mind which was absent in previous.
With due respect, if you would've been unallocated/interview failure, you would have also been in our van.
Respect for all those who have been allocated completely on merit, but their sacrifice in the larger interest of transparency and meritocracy will not go unfruitful.
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Same old mantra of deliberately made failed in sindh essay and I.history.Each year thousands of aspirants are failed in English essay nd composition papers in css and pms .how abt them?aren't they deliberately failed?In CE 16, 94% candidates failed town planning and urban management.shouldn't their exam be reconducted?Brother,this slaughtering trend exists in all competitive exams ,CCE 13 is not an exception.
Nab's inquiry into cce13 related matters is in process,it would find out all the corrupt acts related to cce including ur claim of deliberately declaring u fail in Sindhi essay.Secondly,court has already checked copies and interview record of candidates.If there are even meagre signs of malpractice in process,lfinal judgement would certainly reflect them and the victims would be given chance.
Declaring exam null and void is a rare possibility.court wouldn't play with the future of those candidates who are comparatively ahead of others in this competitive exam.However,reinterviews will be the most likely if things go worst against final allocattees.
Dear Lunatic Bird,

You are requested not to indulge in the unending debate with failures. I call them failures because they are repeating the same baseless arguments all the time instead of accepting their failures. I know the examples in fpsc, ppsc where candidates got full marks (yes full marks) by interview panel. there are examples in fpsc and ppsc where candidates failed by just 1 marks in english essay whereas he secure 805 in composition. I remember the allegation of one failure in court where he made statement that How can I be failed in my mother tongue paper! By that very logic every person born in USA or UK are prolific writer or orator! I have my urdu speaking friends who failed in urdu essay and composition.

Any how, we gave our solid legal arguments in courts no need to give explanations here.
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Mr.Jumu Khan's daughter got 660 marks in written and there are so many other sourceful candidates who have 600 plus marks in written. Now even if you compete with them on viva voce basis you will not cross them. So what would you like to call them after all they have been qualified on a very distinct margin as compared to you Mr. Einstein.
Do you think that your argument is true that viva voce marking was not given on merit basis because a genius person like you couldn't be allocated while those who were declared intentionally failed in written are actually fail but they just cry on baseless and false basis!
Wow! You are such a genius person indeed!
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Mr.Jumu Khan's daughter got 660 marks in written and there are so many other sourceful candidates who have 600 plus marks in written. Now even if you compete with them on viva voce basis you will not cross them. So what would you like to call them after all they have been qualified on a very distinct margin as compared to you Mr. Einstein.
Do you think that your argument is true that viva voce marking was not given on merit basis because a genius person like you couldn't be allocated while those who were declared intentionally failed in written are actually fail but they just cry on baseless and false basis!
Wow! You are such a genius person indeed!
Jumo khan's Son, his name is Zain Chandio and he scored 616 in written, 69 in english and 127 in GK.
Written tempered, interviews inclined and allocations favored. No iota of doubt about it. Yes, percentage of people like Zain Chandio and Iftikhar Buriro among the written qualifiers is debatable. But what argument allocated guys have or prove of being on merit? 'Gharib ja baar' and 'middle class background' all that is being offered by them to prove their merit and competency.
Tomorrow, verdict will be announced and I believe it will not change anything drastically or go against allocated in a way where they will be deprived of allocations; simply not possible. But I am sure, in case if the allocated guys would be pitched against written qualifiers to assess their competency, >50% of them will lose their allocations straight away.
But what is done cannot be undone. Allocated guys need not to worry. They are 100% safe, no matter what merit was followed.
But I hope and pray that tomorrow shall bring good for everyone, allocated, un-allocated qualifiers and written qualifiers.
and yes, I remember this guy 'Lunatic Bird'. He collected questions and shared with public, which not many of us dare to do. He has a big heart.
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Dear colleagues my argument is simple that let's stand all together against these vultures on a single point agenda. That written part should be reconducted or even CCE 2013 under the patronage of ex-chairman justice Agha Rafique.
It's not a matter of failures but of merit and transparency.
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Dear colleagues my argument is simple that let's stand all together against these vultures on a single point agenda. That written part should be reconducted or even CCE 2013 under the patronage of ex-chairman justice Agha Rafique.
It's not a matter of failures but of merit and transparency.
I support the idea because I have nothing to lose and another chance may land me in top slots. But it will be shear injustice to those 30-40% allocated guys who are really meritorious. I am not talking about 'garib ja baar' but simply meritorious candidates. Not every day can be their day and they may lose their allocation. To me, its over. Competition ends and winners have already been announced. No need to conduct exam again. It will be injustice.
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Dear brothers .

I am beginner aspirant of CSS. I am going to share personal view. I have met many CSPs who show arrogance to failures . Failing in any exam does not mean that some one is dull . May be some failures are more genius then toppers of PCS2013 or CSS .
Bill gates , Albert Einstein, Edison and many other personalities once failed in their life .My close relative also failed in this exam .He is very genius but lazy person . He has been position holder in university . He used to open books in exams night .
pardon me if some one minds .
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My friends discussion is not about failures or allotees. It is about justice, transparency, neutrality and honesty of SPSC. Unfortunately past is very bad as far as the credibility of SPSC is concerned. This time culprits must be punished according to law so that in future malpractice in SPSC could be stopped. Nor the sky will fall neither the earth will shatter if Court and NAB go into the complete details of CCE-2013 and order for the reconduction of CCE-2013 including punishing Bhanwar and company and their appointees as well.
Court must also restore ex-chairman Agha Rafique and give him free hand to bring positive reforms in SPSC.
Believe me this will be a superb move once and for all. Then may the deserving serve the Sindh. They will surely serve this amazing land
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