if you want to enjoy service in your own province then PMS is better, and if you want a mix (like if you are interested in serving in your province as well as other parts of the country) then CSS is the one for u

In PMS, there are no specific service groups or cadres, rather the provincial departments send summaries to public service commission of their related province for allocation of suitable candidates against the posts vacant. The number of seats varies and they are not essentially held on yearly basis. For example, KPK PSC announced the PMS in 2008 and then after the lapse of two years the examination was again announced in 2010.

CSS is the competition on national level while PMS is on provincial level. The CSP officer serves the country wide departments while PMS officer has to serve only in province.

if you ask my opinion CSS is far better then PMS.

i dont want to exaggerate with you people about the superiority of css cadres over pms but will simply add that a couple of days ago i asked one of my close friends who is a pms officers about the powers and privileges of both the services then he stated that it will be extremely foolish and insane if someone leaves even postal and railway of css for pms.I get very much dumbfounded at his this statement. Again i raised with him the issue of 18th amendment and provincial autonomy that it will make the PMS services lucrative but he said its all just gossip. I again get very much astonished.
Moreover i discoursed the aforementioned issue with a score of CSP's and PMS officers as well but they were also in the favour of css cadres.
Besides i have perceived a couple of CSP's of IG,MLCG and Postal Group who has cleared the PMS exam with flying colours but restricted themselves to their previous groups instead of joining PMS.
At this juncture finally i would infer that each and every group of css is far better than pms

even some people rank PMS better than Customs, ROYAL GROUP.. It is very funny. good joke brother
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Brother if you are enough to qualify the css exam and get allocated then go for css otherwise PMS is also a good choice for but every group of CSS should be your first priority according to my perception. regards

and what about the federal secretaries and CEO from OMG and MLCG respectively. In FSP and Postal you will earn more halal paisa. what about these???????. In Fsp you will be an official representative of a country so what you need else gentleman

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a css officer is a css officer.. even a postal csp officer can be a boss to a pms officer (after apug).. but u wont hear a PMS officer dictating terms to csp,.. for me CSS is more better option.. the rest is ur choice, and depends on ur aptitude.. both r govt officers, with slight edge to csps (in my opinion).

CSS is the name of first three to four groups. There is no match between Postal Service and PMS. Even a senior postal officer trail behind Assistant Commissioner of PMS for petty issues. Image the difference of power and authority between a junior PMS Assistant Commissioner and a divisional postal officer who has no power and authority and concerned only with transmitting posts. Postal officers have no power and authority and indeed no social status too. Three days ago, a grade 18 officer of postal was slavIshly requesting my PMS colleague for the 'special' treatment of his relative in hospital. PMS offIcers do dIctate terms to Postal ones when they are posted In fIeld. Postal officers, few of them, dictate their terms to them only when they are posted in provincial secretariats on deputations and that's too on 'sifarish' which is indeed an evil thing. Only a DMG offIcer can be a boss of PMS one. I don't want to disparage Postal but the fact is fact. Yes, postal is a good group if you want peace of mind and secluded environment. Edge is only for DMG, PSP, FSP and Customs.

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Name the person who told you that postal and Railway are better than PMS. I have never heard any PMS officer or Indeed a sane CSS one saying that before. I have never felt that PMS officers are lesser than postal, OMG and railway ones during my several years of service in Punjab Secretariat.
Customs is a Royal Group because of corruption alone and some people like me don't like it. It's my personal preference, you may like Customs. I would prefer PMS over customs but it is my personal preference. Yes, most of the people in our society prefer customs. You can understand the reason behind it. After first four groups of CSS, PMS is indeed better.
DCO is far more powerful than a CEO so no match between MLCG and PMS and OMG is perhaps the worst group when it comes to facilities. You have to service as a section officer for more than a decade and only few officers climb up to become federal secretaries. Most of the federal secretariat seats are occupied by DMG. I can name you several PMS officers who stayed in PMS instead of going to OMG, POSTAL and even PAAS. They are quite happy here.
There is no bulk of Halal money in postal. Who told you that ? You are only entitled to monthly salary.
I have never said that FSP is lesser than PMS. Foreign Service is indeed far better than PMS in every aspect.

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As per my opinion,PMS may be ranked after DMG,PSP,FSP and Customs.Things 'll get better for PMS officers in future as awareness of service structure is rising in PMS lot.Further PMS/PCS Association has also filed a case in Supreme Court thorugh Akram Shaikh against illegal occupation of DMG Officers in Punjab.To my latest,CJ had asked to Chief Secretaries of the Provinces to file reply in this regard.Can someone tell me what is the latest on that case?

css (all occupational groups) are far better than any other job in pakistan. there are many in this thread, i belive, who tried there luc in css but failed and now they are criticiing it.

no offence to any one but friends the truth is truth and none can deny the fact that css is better, no matter how much you people argue.

i am reminded of the story in which a fox desired alot to eat grapes and tried hard to get them, but when he failed he remarked "Grapes are Sour".

those people who are hell bent on proving css as something out of this world dont know ground realities the only elite service of Pakistan was CSP which was abolished in 1973 by BHUTTO due to his personal vendetta the self proclaimed elite service which has ruined this country in the last 40 years i.e DMG is an illegal and unconstitutional group which became the bootlicker of politicians and through their connivance robbed Pakistan with both hands these are the people who are at the beck and call of rulers both civil and military and are corrupt morally and financially but justice is about to be done and they will soon have to pay for their injustices

by the way some ignorant chap has termed css as ferrari that person does not know that your ferrari will crash or come to grinding halt if you will not become a khushamdi of some political party without doing that your ferrari is worse than a ching chi right from section officer to chief secretary every officer is a butler or shoe polisher of either Nawaz Sharif or Zardari and this is the reality

I respect your opinion but you should avoid passing generic statements.we aren't criticizing any group but sharing our personal opinions.Just FYI,There are many PMS Officers who were allocated to different occupational groups(ofcourse not in DMG,PSP) but they preferred to continue in Provincial Management Service of Punjab.

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i have not said anything about any job as i respect eveyone and every job is esteemed, but i only appeal that the CSPs should be given the respect that they deserve. if someone just picks up a fight with me only to get cheap publicty and the attention of the members then i cant help it.
moreover in my previous threads i have condemned the quota system and this means that i believe that there are more competent people tean me who deserve the post i have got.
thus i must make this clear that neither am i a proud man nor am i averse to any job. i hope that now the sane members of the forum would be clear that i meant no disrespect to anyone.

brother Ravian i respect your views and i am of the considered opinion that all bureaucrats have only one function that is to serve the nation and nothing else if we will indulge in these petty matters that who is superior than we are not fulfilling our responsibility towards the nation time has come that we should rise above cadre and rank disputes to ameliorate the sufferings of the poor people of Pakistan who have suffered a lot in the past 65 years