Originally Posted by drvalentino

Mr Ridaf,i am unable to understand what sort of thinking is in your mind..You just wanted to criticize and you did it. Shaukat Khanum is paying more than 1 lac salary to medical officer and even the senior medical officers are earning more than 1 lac and 50 thousand.In Shaukat Khanum,permanant consultants are earning more than 10 lacs per months and few one more than 30 lacs per months.For Example Dr Ahsan Shamim of orthopedics is earning more than 40 lacs per months..You can confirm it by calling SKM.

Meaning for survival is different for different persons.In medical profession,you can earn lot of money but you don't have any power, prestige and authority. The point of my survival was about authority ,prestige in society and public service on national and international level.

Bro,Its my humble request to you that don't criticize until you don't know the reality and don't use condescending language.

Originally Posted by Waqas77

Dr Valentine, heartfelt congratulations for this journey of (struggle and )success.
Would you mind if you were to share Essay strategy with aspirants plus the simple way to make PRECIS?
I'm confused about attempting essay, choosing its topic among those ten bigwigs.?
So , would you sir?

Originally Posted by arosh

yeah its possible.
when my final viva did not over still at that time one medical uni offered me 50,000 per month just for taking one class per day,,Dr sahb is intelligent and for intelligent people good salaries and good oppertunities waiting.

Originally Posted by ridaf

@arosh and drvalentino
maybe only you guys can get that much salary.another one of my cousin is a resident in surgery at Ganga ram n he only gets 50,000(i will definitely tell him to go work at shaukat khanum).i know that consultants make much more than medical officers, n that orthopedics and cardiologists are top money makers in medical profession but i just can't digest the fact that they pay more than one lac to fresh medical officer! but be it if you say so.
@drvalentino
i wasn't just trying to criticize you, i WAS actually criticizing you because i have this huge issue with doctors choosing another profession after they have wasted a medical seat.i was hoping you could be a bit honest about why you left medicine.as decent baloch said "many doctor quit their profession for Civil Service. When it comes to power and authority, there is no other match."
so there, thats what i had in mind.
as i said before i mean no offense brother but i apologize if you felt that way.

Originally Posted by Muhammad Faisal Bilal

wish you best of luck

Originally Posted by Emaan zia

Sir, You can not judge about the exact income of doctors -who work in different organiztaions- just by asking your cousins and peers.For some institution pay more while others pay less.In punjab ,pay of fresh p.g. Trainee is 42500 rupees and that of nely appointed m.o is about 47000.But in skmch, pay is definitely more than its govt. counterparts as the duty timing in skmch is about 12 hours contrary to 6 hours in govt. ones(excluding some er duties).So you should debate over the questions about which you have sufficient knowledge because then it may bear fruits.Please don't be offended .
Regard

Originally Posted by dms664

Sir please share your geography and sociology study plan.

i have told in my thread "i am available for guidance of css 2013 aspirants

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Originally Posted by Raja Gujral

I don't want to criticize doctor sb but just expressing my opinion.
The lust for power , prestige and authority has become the prime and real motive for joining civil service. This attitude has destroyed our society.
When it comes to correct the flaws in system, bureaucrats always oppose that, as it affects their authority.
The survival becomes easy for civil servants but general public is just suffering and will remain suffering forever. Judges, CSP's , Army officers and politicians can only survive in this system where people on powerful posts can kick the law and the Phd professor is considered as " waila banda".
Such nations can never progress. It is also mentioned in Hadees that the previous nations got destroyed because they would leave the powerful persons if they committed crimes.

Originally Posted by Raja Gujral

I don't want to criticize doctor sb but just expressing my opinion.
The lust for power , prestige and authority has become the prime and real motive for joining civil service. This attitude has destroyed our society.
When it comes to correct the flaws in system, bureaucrats always oppose that, as it affects their authority.
The survival becomes easy for civil servants but general public is just suffering and will remain suffering forever. Judges, CSP's , Army officers and politicians can only survive in this system where people on powerful posts can kick the law and the Phd professor is considered as " waila banda".
Such nations can never progress. It is also mentioned in Hadees that the previous nations got destroyed because they would leave the powerful persons if they committed crimes.

Originally Posted by drvalentino

You are right, Everyone thrives for power and authority. That's the way,the system is working.Why you wanna do CSS ?Needs your honest reply.

Originally Posted by mir shujaat ali maaz

If someone here claims that he or she is not doing CsS for power and authority, then you are making fool out of yourself buddy. Come on we all know how it is. Everybody loves the power & prestige and in the case of CSS that is the only reason for doing it. And dont forget the meager amount of salaries our govt pays us, atleast let the CSPs enjoy the power charm.

Originally Posted by Nadia Meer

Congratulations a lot dear!
now pray for others. who has first & last attempt m one of them
All are requested to pray for me plzzzzzzzzzzzz

Originally Posted by Raja Gujral

The real motive is to use that power in a wrong way.
I couldn't prepare for the upcoming attempt because of having severe crisis. Now, I think the destiny might not give the opportunity again. However let's see what happens next.
I am also part of this society. If I don't go for css , I will have to face the atrocities by the bureaucrats like you, in future.
They are nothing but Brown English men. My heart weeps when I see people coming again and again in government departments to get their work done but their exercise remains futile if they don't have any reference. Even the peon outside the office behaves in a harsh manner.
So, its my request that you may enjoy the power but take care of the public as well. Otherwise I am seeing a bloody war inside country if justice will not be provided to a common man.

Originally Posted by faiqa salim

how to pass the essay sir?