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Please go through only this thread (besides the CTP subforum) and see what the seniors and CSPs have reccomended regarding preferences. Even if you people still do not want to accept the realities then no one can compel to do so.
http://www.cssforum.com.pk/css-cadre...ss-2011-a.html

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There is a thing called hypocracy that is when one aspires for something and do not get it then he/she start to befool himself that this was not worth of me and blah blah blah, we can also call it sour grapeism. May be the CSPs of PAAS and IRS etc whom these people have met were victim of this. Thats why they termed these groups better than DMG,PSP and FSP only to misguide others.
I did not term any group better than others, not once. I only said that people may have preferences different than what dear dr.adnan termed a natural order, because they may personally want that for themselves. This proves that there is no "natural order", and what looks like it is actually combination of two things: crowd/impulse following (through a hypothetical construct that DMG and PSP are best because everyone else says so), or, genuine aspiration for power, prestige, and authority etc (of a certain style) by an informed decision (which is completely okay, but just that preference with respect to this concern does not make it "natural' for everyone, even though majority may do it.). But since you represent majority, I don't expect you to actually understand it. End of discussion on this.
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Mr. Hafeez Sheikh says in one of TV program that corruption each year in FBR is equal to the fiscal deficit of Pakistan. Extreme of corruption in IRS and Customs!!! What are the ways of tackling this high corruption in above two groups?
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IRS is best group:
i was appointed in karachi RTO on 22 august 2011 suddenly and i was told that no office is availble for you so you have to sit anywhere you want.us ke baad main ne source lagwaya to allah allah kar ke office mila.office milne ke baad pata chala ke table kursi stationary computer wagera wagera to available nahin hai baqi ap office ki deewaron se ager kam chala sakty hain to chala len.kuch seniours ko minnat samajat ki to do char kagaz aik adh tuti phooti kursi mil gai.staff ka maloom kia to pata chala ke 3 peon hain jis main se aik commissioner sahab ne rakh lia hai baqi 2 main se aik ata hai wo bhi jab uska dil kahy aye jab dil kahy na yae.2 Clerk diye gaye jis main se 1 ata hai dosry ka atta pata hi nahin.inspector sahab aik din moon dikha ke gaye to aj tak wapis nahin aye.no convience is not available is liye public bus pe ata hon public bus pe jata hon.aur karachi ki public buson ka haal apko pata hai.office sanbhalte hi FTO sahab ne peshi ke lye bula lya.kam ka kuch pata nahin tha hazri dy kar agye jan bachi to lakhon paye.FTO se wapis aker filon ke pahar agy rakh diye gaye bola gaya ke inki report pesh ki jaen.apny ikloty clerk ko kaha ke report bnao to unhon ne kaha ke humen to kam ka pata nahin.humen puri STP ki training main sirf income Tax Law parhaya gaya tha.law ki book se rujoo kiya to us main ye kahin nahin likha hua tha ke office work kese karna hai reports kesy bnani hain.kuch purani reports khol ker us main ulti sidhi figures daal ker kaam chala lya.to bhai kam isi tarah chal raha hai ab fesla aap ke haath main hai.par main to phir bhi kahon ga:
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i was appointed in karachi RTO on 22 august 2011 suddenly and i was told that no office is availble for you so you have to sit anywhere you want.us ke baad main ne source lagwaya to allah allah kar ke office mila.office milne ke baad pata chala ke table kursi stationary computer wagera wagera to available nahin hai baqi ap office ki deewaron se ager kam chala sakty hain to chala len.kuch seniours ko minnat samajat ki to do char kagaz aik adh tuti phooti kursi mil gai.staff ka maloom kia to pata chala ke 3 peon hain jis main se aik commissioner sahab ne rakh lia hai baqi 2 main se aik ata hai wo bhi jab uska dil kahy aye jab dil kahy na yae.2 Clerk diye gaye jis main se 1 ata hai dosry ka atta pata hi nahin.inspector sahab aik din moon dikha ke gaye to aj tak wapis nahin aye.no convience is not available is liye public bus pe ata hon public bus pe jata hon.aur karachi ki public buson ka haal apko pata hai.office sanbhalte hi FTO sahab ne peshi ke lye bula lya.kam ka kuch pata nahin tha hazri dy kar agye jan bachi to lakhon paye.FTO se wapis aker filon ke pahar agy rakh diye gaye bola gaya ke inki report pesh ki jaen.apny ikloty clerk ko kaha ke report bnao to unhon ne kaha ke humen to kam ka pata nahin.humen puri STP ki training main sirf income Tax Law parhaya gaya tha.law ki book se rujoo kiya to us main ye kahin nahin likha hua tha ke office work kese karna hai reports kesy bnani hain.kuch purani reports khol ker us main ulti sidhi figures daal ker kaam chala lya.to bhai kam isi tarah chal raha hai ab fesla aap ke haath main hai.par main to phir bhi kahon ga:
IRS is best group
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Trotsky Sir, what can anyone do then, if there is no office and no office work.Why do people put it at no 5??
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what i mentioned above is only the tip of the iceberg.when we were transfered to karachi rto we didnt get salary for 3 months
our T.A.D.A bills are still not passed after 5 months
we did not have any telephone facility in office we call the taxpayer through our personal mobile.
we do not get any double salary and still they is no any hope
to get it in near future.
yuo asked then why people prefer IRS , because the situation in others departments is worst than this.they dont tell truth to any one because they think this is their insult to tell the css aspirants that what is cooking here in govt offices.each and every group has its own problems in personal meetings they curse their groups even officers from DMG and Police are not satisfied.bhai jab poora mulk azab se guzar raha hai to ye kese mumkin hai ke yahan pe doodh ki nadyan beh rahi hon.ap log bhi khuwabon ki jannat se bahar nikal ao aur 21/22 grade ki baten karna chor do.
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what i mentioned above is only the tip of the iceberg.when we were transfered to karachi rto we didnt get salary for 3 months
our T.A.D.A bills are still not passed after 5 months
we did not have any telephone facility in office we call the taxpayer through our personal mobile.
we do not get any double salary and still they is no any hope
to get it in near future.
yuo asked then why people prefer IRS , because the situation in others departments is worst than this.they dont tell truth to any one because they think this is their insult to tell the css aspirants that what is cooking here in govt offices.each and every group has its own problems in personal meetings they curse their groups even officers from DMG and Police are not satisfied.bhai jab poora mulk azab se guzar raha hai to ye kese mumkin hai ke yahan pe doodh ki nadyan beh rahi hon.ap log bhi khuwabon ki jannat se bahar nikal ao aur 21/22 grade ki baten karna chor do.

brother what you are revealing is very shocking.i simply love irs.one can manage without perks,previliges but what to do if they are not providing you with office,staff,pay etc.i know some cspz of postal services and wahan to itna bura haal nahee hai.
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practicle field is totally different from ideal feelings of probationers and css aspirants.you said that one can manage without perk and previledges,how??? can anyone manage his house as well as office expenditures @ Rs25000 per month.
After eid when we came to our offices nearly 50 people(peons,sweepers,gaurds,liftman etc) came to us for eidi.we felt very ashamed that we Grade 17 officers could not give a single penny to them.
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