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i have also worked in private sectore as a civil engineer lekin wahan pe itna bura haal nahin.bas job security ka issue hai.postal waly sach bolen to unke bhi masly ap sab ke samny ajaen gy
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Bhai jan IRS is a department where people die for this group. In few months office and other issues will be settled. I belong to a family of CSPs and our family friends are in Police and DMG and if you read my old posts than you will understand how disturb they are in Police and dmg. Few of there dmg friends due to bad serving conditions in cities left dmg jobs and joined big private companies. Police group officers and dmg are working on deputation. IRS is a first class group where you will be living in citits with your family and children but you cant imagine the life of field officers of dmg and police group.
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practicle field is totally different from ideal feelings of probationers and css aspirants.you said that one can manage without perk and previledges,how??? can anyone manage his house as well as office expenditures @ Rs25000 per month.
After eid when we came to our offices nearly 50 people(peons,sweepers,gaurds,liftman etc) came to us for eidi.we felt very ashamed that we Grade 17 officers could not give a single penny to them.
You are absolutely right.noone can manage her/his house in 25000.such a low salary is simply an effort to engage officers in corruption etc.but on the flip side every aspirant know what she/he will be getting after joining the services.
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Bhai jan IRS is a department where people die for this group. In few months office and other issues will be settled. I belong to a family of CSPs and our family friends are in Police and DMG and if you read my old posts than you will understand how disturb they are in Police and dmg. Few of there dmg friends due to bad serving conditions in cities left dmg jobs and joined big private companies. Police group officers and dmg are working on deputation. IRS is a first class group where you will be living in citits with your family and children but you cant imagine the life of field officers of dmg and police group.
We allow healthy discussions on this forum.We even allow people to glorify their favourite groups here,but we do not allow exaggeration and spread of misinformation by the members.Sorry to say that is exactly what you are spreading.IRS ki tareefein krein jitni kurni hey,lekin ainda me aap ko DMG,PSP ya kissi or group ko tarnish kurta hua na daikhun.If they are at the top,they are there for a reason.Ye educational forum hey,koi totay se faal nikalwaney waala forum nahy jahan is tarah future predict kiye ja rhe hey.Misinformation mt phelayein. Bureaucrats or logon ki families me bhi he.
Or yad rkhein.ap trotsky ko samjhaney ki koshish kr rhe ho wo baten jo wo pehle hi aap se behtr samjhtey honge.He is already in IRS.I request of you not to show any 'sabz bagh' to people visiting this forum.Majboor mt krein moderators ko k ub wo strict quality audit bhi kurna shuru kar dein iss forum pe.
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i have also worked in private sectore as a civil engineer lekin wahan pe itna bura haal nahin.bas job security ka issue hai.postal waly sach bolen to unke bhi masly ap sab ke samny ajaen gy
Trotsky sir, apart from Job security can you cite anymore benefits/powers/anything positive about this group.How long do you think this present state of affairs lasts in a new CSPs career?
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IRS is best group:
i was appointed in karachi RTO on 22 august 2011 suddenly and i was told that no office is availble for you so you have to sit anywhere you want.us ke baad main ne source lagwaya to allah allah kar ke office mila.office milne ke baad pata chala ke table kursi stationary computer wagera wagera to available nahin hai baqi ap office ki deewaron se ager kam chala sakty hain to chala len.kuch seniours ko minnat samajat ki to do char kagaz aik adh tuti phooti kursi mil gai.staff ka maloom kia to pata chala ke 3 peon hain jis main se aik commissioner sahab ne rakh lia hai baqi 2 main se aik ata hai wo bhi jab uska dil kahy aye jab dil kahy na yae.2 Clerk diye gaye jis main se 1 ata hai dosry ka atta pata hi nahin.inspector sahab aik din moon dikha ke gaye to aj tak wapis nahin aye.no convience is not available is liye public bus pe ata hon public bus pe jata hon.aur karachi ki public buson ka haal apko pata hai.office sanbhalte hi FTO sahab ne peshi ke lye bula lya.kam ka kuch pata nahin tha hazri dy kar agye jan bachi to lakhon paye.FTO se wapis aker filon ke pahar agy rakh diye gaye bola gaya ke inki report pesh ki jaen.apny ikloty clerk ko kaha ke report bnao to unhon ne kaha ke humen to kam ka pata nahin.humen puri STP ki training main sirf income Tax Law parhaya gaya tha.law ki book se rujoo kiya to us main ye kahin nahin likha hua tha ke office work kese karna hai reports kesy bnani hain.kuch purani reports khol ker us main ulti sidhi figures daal ker kaam chala lya.to bhai kam isi tarah chal raha hai ab fesla aap ke haath main hai.par main to phir bhi kahon ga:
IRS is best group
Sir, is the condition same for all AC's(Income tax) in RTO, khi or yours was an exceptional case?
Secondly, are the conditions which you mentioned (no office, no salary, no peon) same for other deptt's such as Pakistan Customs Service (PCS) which also, alongwith IRS, comes under FBR?



P.S Your post has disheartened me alot !
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Hamza bhai

I told what listened from Grade-18 & 19 DMG officers.

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IRS is a first class group where you will be living in citits with your family and children but you cant imagine the life of field officers of dmg and police group.
how these issues are settled do you know the reality??? you have to buy your own computer,printer,stationary etc for your office.and for all these things you have to be corrupt.people feel proud when they do corruption and if u dont do this your own friends ridicule you.
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Trotsky sir, apart from Job security can you cite anymore benefits/powers/anything positive about this group.How long do you think this present state of affairs lasts in a new CSPs career?
Nothing is positive in this country than how is it possible that there would be any thing positive about our depatments.
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Sir, is the condition same for all AC's(Income tax) in RTO, khi or yours was an exceptional case?
Secondly, are the conditions which you mentioned (no office, no salary, no peon) same for other deptt's such as Pakistan Customs Service (PCS) which also, alongwith IRS, comes under FBR?

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we were are about 9 officers which are posted here @ khi.all have faced same issues which i mentioned above.choty stations pe gari wagera dety hain prtocole bhi hai par wahan rishwat ka paisa nahin hai is liye ziyada log big cities ko hi prefer karty hain kio ke pyare pakistan main rishwat ka paisa humare officers ki first priorty hai.my faimly lives in karachi thats why main ne yahan posting li nahin to main kisi choty shahr main posting leta.baqi dosry goups main kiya hota hai wo ap un se hi pochen kion b/c i can not take any responsibility for other groups
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