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Dear! I hold you in high regard and PMS/PCS is a very fine service indeed. But this doesn't mean that PMS is better than CSP/DMG group. Actually, PMS is not much different from its erstwhile predecessor, PCS. As you already know, PMS was constituted in 2004 by combining the then incumbent PCS Executive and Provincial Secretariat Service. The aim was to form a new service that can work in this new devolutioned administrative structure where the posts of ADOs (R) (Assistant District Officers Revenue) were abolished. In short, PMS was neither created to replace CSP/DMG nor it was designed to curb or to rein the DMGs in.*
There is no comparison between PMS and DMG as far as selection, training, promotion, legacy and working environment are concerned.*
Regarding this editorial clipping, I can quote tens and hundreds *of efficient ICS/CSP/DMG officers who performed better than their PMS counterparts.*
Had my sister been allocated to DMG, she would have opted for DMG.So plz don't mix DMG with PAAS.*

Also, I can assure you dear, your case, in SC, is weak.*

I am an ex-provincial civil servant.*

I could not stop my self to indulge into this discussion. No doubt PCS/PMS cadre is striving for better position but it has no comparison with CSS Groups particularly listed on top. DMG is after all a superior service, it has psychological impact on the society and government servants since ICS era.

As far as posting and transfer is concerned, seniors have already discussed the matter in detail. It is said 'jo jeeta wo sikandar' so good posting is not one's property, anyone from any group can grab the opportunity.

In Balochistan there is still PCS viz two groups Secretariat and Executive Service, promotion is rapid. After 5 years officers are promoted to 17 and similarly to 18 after 12 years service. Currently there are 5 posts of 21 for provincial services in the province and about APUG i don't have any idea.

Herein Balochistan there are 30 districts out of which 4 Deputy Commissioners belong to DMG (safe estimate) and rest of the DCs belong to Executive Cadre of province. Similarly, Principal Secretary to CM and PSO of CM are from provincial services. Problem is that DMG officers are not willing to serve in Balochistan. So, provincial services established their monopoly in the province.

Just to quote an example of a Deputy Commissioner of a district who is from provincial service in grade 18, very much young and still eligible to sit in CSS Exam, I don't he will be any more aspirant for DMG. It is all about your personality, how you avail the opportunity and how you make your job attractive by virtue of your competency. Influence or reference is all about one's personal guts or family background.

Just to summarize my words "Dhoor ke dhool suhanay lagtain he, andhar se system ko dekhain tu sab khookla he"

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Assalamualaikum to All members:

Very good discussion and healthy participation from all... nicee niceee...: )

This thread is for Punjab but let me share you some news of KPK as PMS and DMG conflicts is a national issue... : )

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Source: 8 Dec 2011(today) daily mashriq newspaper... : )

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I 100% agree with your last line (door k dhol suhanay....)...infact thats well said and reality is quite different in the field...but as far as saying about that DC who is BPS-18 and still has a chance to sit in CSS...Well I have serious doubts about this statement of that DC ofcourse you must be quoting him correctly...Moreover as far as i know the service of DMG officers start from where PCS officers of Baluchistan end their service; The Federal Secretariat.

Moreover please keep this fact into consideration that how many DMG/PSP officers prefer serving in Balochistan????? please think about this

dear, I am sure no PSP and DMG officer who having domicile of Punjab, is serving there, not even 1... Only those PSPs and DMGs are serving who having Balochistan or KPK Domicile... There are many factors behind this... You seniors knew this thing much better than me... : )

Its a fact...

Source: Apas ki baat program... : )

P.S: Nadem bro. share your email id in your profile...Please... : )
Love PSPs... : )

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