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They Know Enough Who Know How to Learn


Learning is psychological process of grasping a notion, method, technique, and way of doing things. The difference between successful and failure is not identical ways of learning. A person who adopts the way to do things effectively and efficiently declared successful; And the person who performed same work at high cost and inefficient manner known as failure. A person, who opens the Pandora box and learn how to learn, moves towards the ocean of knowledge. But Unfortunately, In our society not everybody is lucky to learn that way. However, In our society growing culture of "Ratafication" is promoted by the unqualified teachers rather giving the knowledge to students about, how to retain and learn more, with a simple technique of understanding the notion of the topic.Those who follow the recipe of success and understand, practice, and pen down their knowledge, ideas and concept goes far ahead than the person who is misleaded to the utter darkness of failure.


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Dear Bunko,

Some points in your proposed expansion have confused me. I hope your explanation or views on it will be enlightening for students like me.

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Learning is psychological process of grasping a notion, method, technique, and way of doing things.
Learning is a psychological process of grasping a notion, method, technique, and way of doing things.

Don't you think there is repetition in the sentence? The word "method" is almost same as "technique"; later we have "way of doing things" which is the meaning of the word method.

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The difference between successful and failure is not identical ways of learning.
The difference between success successful and failure is not identical ways of learning.

Success and failure are opposite to each other; how they can have "identical ways of learning."?

Perhaps you mean to say something like "The difference between success and failure is the way of leaning." or "Success are failures are defined by the way one learns".

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A person who adopts the way to do things effectively and efficiently declared successful;
Sentence seems unnecessarily long.

A person who employs effective and efficient methods is declared successful.

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And the person who performed same work at high cost and inefficient manner known as failure.
And the person who performs performed same work at high cost and inefficient manner is known as failure.

But the topic is "They Know Enough Who Know How to Learn" not "the importance of planning in achieving success". It seems to me, we have deviated from the topic, what do you think?

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A person, who opens the Pandora box and learn how to learn, moves towards the ocean of knowledge.
What Pandora Box has got to do with learning?
Why he has to open a box or learn how to learn first, to move towards "ocean of knowledge"? I mean "ocean of knowledge" should provide the means to "learn how to learn" itself.

A person, who understands the effective way to learn, finds a whole new world of knowledge, full countless vistas to explore and learn, in front of him.

or

Only a person, with good ideas and techniques to learn, can really explore the vast and deep ocean of knowledge. The rest do not even make it to the shores.

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But Unfortunately, In our society not everybody is lucky to learn that way.
I believe "fortunate" is the preferred word in formal contexts.

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However, In our society growing culture of "Ratafication" is promoted by the unqualified teachers
Is there any particular reason for using Urdu word; "cramming" also seems to fit here correctly?

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@ Andrew;

Thank you in tons.

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The difference between success and failure is not identical ways of learning.
Here, I tried to say " The difference between these two is not similar way of learning"
Identical means " Similar " or " Same ". So thats why I used not before it. I tried to twist words to give spicy the sentence.

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A person, who opens the Pandora box and learn how to learn, moves towards the ocean of knowledge.
Yes ! I used Pandora Box here, because the technique of learning is not known to everybody. Only, Who discovers this secret learn more than others ( And thats why i used Ocean of knowledge )

And You are right, I have deviated from the topic.
Moreover, I intentionally used word " Ratafication " to bring change, but i think it didn't work. And learned from you not to use " Slang "


Thanks for correcting me.
Please, Recommend us some sources to improve our English.
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@ Andrew;
Thank you in tons.
My pleasure!


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Here, I tried to say " The difference between these two is not similar way of learning"
Identical means " Similar " or " Same ". So thats why I used not before it. I tried to twist words to give spicy the sentence.
In that case unidentical (opposite of identical) is the word you must be looking for.

The difference between success and failure is the unidentical ways of learning.

But still sentence remains confusing. You may want to rephrase it.

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Yes ! I used Pandora Box here, because the technique of learning is not known to everybody. Only, Who discovers this secret learn more than others ( And thats why i used Ocean of knowledge )
Pandora Box is used with problems, mistakes and evils. If you have some example of its usage associated with education or positive context, then please share it with us.

Quote from Oxford Advanced Learner Dictionary
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Pandora's Box :
a process that, if started, will cause many problems that cannot be solved

This court case could open a Pandora's box of similar claims.

ORIGIN From the Greek myth in which Pandora was created by the god Zeus and sent to the earth with a box containing many evils. When she opened the box, the evils came out and infected the earth.
Here are few examples from Daily DAWN and Daily Times

  1. The passions and expectations unleashed during the recent election campaign have opened a Pandora’s box, and it is unlikely that things will ever be the same in Iran again.
  2. “It’s a can of worms, a Pandora’s box, that is going to open now as a result of maligning my reputation,” he said.
  3. An Indian government commission here on Saturday opened a Pandora’s box, claiming that almost 19 districts in three border states of Assam, West Bengal and Bihar have recorded a “disproportionate” growth of Muslims over the past decade.
  4. The invocation of Article 6 would open a Pandora’s box, as it would require trying all supporters and abettors of all violators of the constitution, MQM chief Altaf Hussain said on Saturday.
If one opens Pandora's box, rest assured he will get every undesirable thing but not a single iota of education and knowledge.

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And You are right, I have deviated from the topic.
Moreover, I intentionally used word " Ratafication " to bring change, but i think it didn't work. And learned from you not to use " Slang "
Thanks for correcting me.
I appreciate it that you took my comments positively.

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Please, Recommend us some sources to improve our English.
I wish I was eligible to reply, unfortunately I am nothing but a mere student.

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Attention Bunko!
I have posted a query for you. Please have a look at it (link)
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@ Andrew

I think, I have mis leaded by Digital Dictionary,
it explains Pandora Box as " Exploring a Secret " or " Unveil something important "
But it didn't mentioned either in positive term or negative.

And Yes ! I was looking for the word unidentical.

I Appreciate your post.
And the link of the book you were asking is given below:

http://rapidshare.com/files/31010055...ssays.rar.html


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@ Bunko

Dear, it would be your kindest favor if you send this book to me at my email address, zaidishah2@hotmail.com, as your given link is demanding for premier membership before downloading the book, which is out of my reach. So Please, send it to me on my email address

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your given link is demanding for premier membership before downloading the book, which is out of my reach.
No it isn't. Rapidshare shows that message to encourage users to get their membership.

Just refresh the page, it will tell you to try again after 2 minutes. Once you refresh the page after two minutes, the usual countdown timer will start, at whose end you will be given the download link. Sometimes, one has to try more than once, but free download from rapidshare definitely works.

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They Know Enough, Who Know How to Learn


Learning is an art, and being artistic is not a smooth sailing. The people, who understand the art of learning, definitely know much over those who are strangers for this. Learning is a process in which one has to lay over the bed of thorns and this makes one much enduring and artistic. Success and hard work both go hand in hand and ultimately meet at the right time. The example of this is same as, one can not write a good verse of poetry without knowing the rules of poetry. Like it is an art to write a poem, so one needs to work hard and needs to practice hard before writing a good verse of poetry. If one knows the way of wood working, he or she can easily made any type of table and chair or cupboard. But without knowing the way of wood working it would become much difficult to make a chair or table or any other thing. Same is the case with CSS and other high level competitive examinations. One needs to be good and conversant in both the languages of Urdu and English. Secondly, one should be a good time manager. And the last but not least is that one should select right subjects, harmonious to the nature and interest of one.



Please all CSP's, Seniors, and Juniors are welcomed to check this paragraph and comment on it. All the suggestions, Criticisms, analysis and innovations will be highly appreciated.
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