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seher bano ["you need to know each and every rule of grammar either by hook or by crook( by ratta or by practice, choice is yours)"] and ahmed faisal ["If you want to take the CSS exams you have to excel you grammar because this is not a B.A or M.A exams wherein you can solve every composition paper without knowing the rules of grammar"] believe otherwise. they are so adamant to prove that they are right! it's a matter of personal opinion so they need to respect and accept other person's opinion.
Every one has a world of his own, a world different from the real world, and different from the worlds of the rest of the world..
All of you have something in common and something personal.. They have their own opinion and you have your's and so is for all of us.. No one should object others' subjectivity.. We should respect each other's opinion..
But isn't it better to come to things that we all share, have in common and agree to?
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To each their own i guess

You are right. I ever give a formula for impressive compositions. READ, WRITE AND GET GUIDANCE.

Let me ask you a simple question. Reply in YES or NO.


Did you learn grammar in classes since childhood?
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yes, till class 7.. basics not 'intermediate or advanced'.
that's exactly what im trying to tell, learning grammar is ok at the primary level not at the age of 22,23 or so. memorizing grammar is the most absurd idea ever. hope you get me : )
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Write a comprehensive note (250 - 300) on any ONE of the following:2000



(a) Society is produced by our wants and government by our wickedness (Thomas Pain).

(b) We learn from history that we do not learn from history. (Hegel)

(c) Liberty doesn’t work as well in practice as it does in speeches. (Will Rogers)

(d) Politics is strife of interests masquerading as a contest of principles. (Ambrose Pierce)
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(a) Society is produced by our wants and government by our wickedness (Thomas Pain).


Aristotle well defined man as social animal .Individuals formed societies for coordination and common interests.Whereas social pressure keep masses away from Vices and immoral attitudes .But to eradicate crimes government are constituted ;ironically the group which has created for the larger benefit of mankind keep their interest on the top most list .Their opportunistic attitudes accelerate crimes ,corruption and chaos in society .

In order to testify above assumption ,I began with monarchy ;the system in which wealth ,powers and literature of life were in the hands of nobles .They are free from law but when untouchables--the derogated portion of society-- commit crimes .They were given punishments. Education was confined to elitist faction in order to restrain social change.So monarchy died its own death like that of aristocracy ;form of oligarchy .Let me elaborate it by exemplifying it in case of Indian . They have divided society into four faction having different rules for each. The ''untouchables were given heinous punishments if they dared to pass by Prevailed faction .

I have witnessed that no society remained stagnant .The only constant is change .Monarchy was the crude form of government which refined in present system ;the democratic process which created class system who rule over the world .In past caste system was created to discriminate between rich and poor . So system have been changed but function of governance has remained same.

Every leader has raised the slogan of change .Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto wanted to change the Pakistan`s society so he tried to championed the cause of poor .After getting authority he could not mend up the so-called system and his slogan of ''roti kapra and makan died.Imran khan has raised his voice for people and done lot of reforms for common . But we have to see is he be able to frame his party manifestos and bring change or not .


In fact ,many rulers voiced to conceal their own vices . They have changed the systems and used religion as a tool.Present democratic system also has defects .Because it is based on accumulation of wealth ,not on equalization.It has created system of banking which organized IMF ,WTO and other organizations . So current system is based on global empire which is divided into three classed ;the underdeveloped states have to lend money in order to run their economy.So societies can best preserve their interests because there is no rule of "Might is Right" for them.
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yes, till class 7.. basics not 'intermediate or advanced'.
that's exactly what im trying to tell, learning grammar is ok at the primary level not at the age of 22,23 or so. memorizing grammar is the most absurd idea ever. hope you get me : )
You are right. I don't know why FPSC board and CSPs recommend books of grammar.

Like:

*A practical English Grammar by Thomson & Martinet
*Practical English Usage by Swan (OUP)
*Exploring the world of English

Though, we are 21 plus. (I am not included.)

We should protest against Education board that grammar must be studied at primary level.

Most of students fail and feel difficulties in English. They are 21+.

It is very sick to say. They should avoid studying grammar books. They should not buy discovering the world of English (800 Rs) and By Swan (1600 Rs). They are 22-23 and it is wastage of time and money.

I agree to your views. CSPs should not say us to read grammar; we are 22-23.

Hey, don't think it is Socratic irony. You are right.
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Write a comprehensive note (250 - 300) on any ONE of the following:2000



(a) Society is produced by our wants and government by our wickedness (Thomas Pain).

(b) We learn from history that we do not learn from history. (Hegel)

(c) Liberty doesn’t work as well in practice as it does in speeches. (Will Rogers)

(d) Politics is strife of interests masquerading as a contest of principles. (Ambrose Pierce)
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(a) Society is produced by our wants and government by our wickedness (Thomas Pain).


Aristotle well defined man as social animal .Individuals formed societies for coordination and common interests.Whereas social pressure keep masses away from Vices and immoral attitudes .But to eradicate crimes government are constituted ;ironically the group which has created for the larger benefit of mankind keep their interest on the top most list .Their opportunistic attitudes accelerate crimes ,corruption and chaos in society .

In order to testify above assumption ,I began with monarchy ;the system in which wealth ,powers and literature of life were in the hands of nobles .They are free from law but when untouchables--the derogated portion of society-- commit crimes .They were given punishments. Education was confined to elitist faction in order to restrain social change.So monarchy died its own death like that of aristocracy ;form of oligarchy .Let me elaborate it by exemplifying it in case of Indian . They have divided society into four faction having different rules for each. The ''untouchables were given heinous punishments if they dared to pass by Prevailed faction .

I have witnessed that no society remained stagnant .The only constant is change .Monarchy was the crude form of government which refined in present system ;the democratic process which created class system who rule over the world .In past caste system was created to discriminate between rich and poor . So system have been changed but function of governance has remained same.

(You cannot give I and ME in expansion, it is a blunder. Correct this all. You speak about past, avoid using present tense. )

Every leader has raised the slogan of change .Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto wanted to change the Pakistan`s society so he tried to championed the cause of poor .After getting authority he could not mend up the so-called system and his slogan of ''roti kapra and makan died.Imran khan has raised his voice for people and done lot of reforms for common . But we have to see is he be able to frame his party manifestos and bring change or not .

(You better remove this paragraph.)

In fact ,many rulers voiced to conceal their own vices . They have changed the systems and used religion as a tool.Present democratic system also has defects .Because it is based on accumulation of wealth ,not on equalization.It has created system of banking which organized IMF ,WTO and other organizations . So current system is based on global empire which is divided into three classed ;the underdeveloped states have to lend money in order to run their economy.So societies can best preserve their interests because there is no rule of "Might is Right" for them.

Write it again. You have written around 450 words. Word limit is 250-300 words.

Write again beautifully.
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Arrow I have tried ! Hope it would be better .. Otherwise practise and practise .......

Write a comprehensive note (250 - 300) on any ONE of the following:2000



(a) Society is produced by our wants and government by our wickedness (Thomas Pain).

(b) We learn from history that we do not learn from history. (Hegel)

(c) Liberty doesn’t work as well in practice as it does in speeches. (Will Rogers)

(d) Politics is strife of interests masquerading as a contest of principles. (Ambrose Pierce)
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(a) Society is produced by our wants and government by our wickedness (Thomas Pain).


Aristotle has defined man a'' social animal'' .Individuals have formed societies for coordination and common interests.Whereas social pressure keeps masses away from Vices and immoral attitudes .But to eradicate crimes government are constituted.Ironically the group which has been created for the larger benefit of mankind preserved their own benefits .Their opportunistic attitudes accelerate crimes ,corruption and chaos in society .

The powerful faction had always devised policies to grab their advantages .The monarchy ;the system in which wealth ,powers and literature of life were in the hands of nobles .They were free from law but when untouchables--the derogated portion of society-- committed crimes .They were given strict punishments. Education was confined to elitist faction in order to restrain social change.So monarchy died its own death like that of aristocracy ;form of oligarchy .Indian civilization is the oldest one which portrayed how much Brahamnas had monopolized religion and created discrimination where burnings ,shooting ,beating of slave class was common . They had divided society into four faction having different rules for each. The ''untouchables were given heinous punishments if they dared to pass by Prevailed faction .

Change is inevitable and the only constant is change .Monarchy was the crude form of government which refined in present system ;the democratic process which created class system who will rule over the world .In past caste system was created to discriminate between rich and poor . So system have been changed but function of governance has remained same.



In fact ,many rulers voiced to conceal their own vices . They have changed the systems and used religion as a tool.Present democratic system also has defects .Because it is based on accumulation of wealth ,not on equalization.It has created system of banking which organized IMF ,WTO and other organizations . So current system is based on global empire which is divided into three classed ;the underdeveloped states have to lend money in order to run their economy.So societies can best preserve their interests because there is no rule of "Might is Right" for them.
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You are right. I don't know why FPSC board and CSPs recommend books of grammar.

Like:

*A practical English Grammar by Thomson & Martinet
*Practical English Usage by Swan (OUP)
*Exploring the world of English

Though, we are 21 plus. (I am not included.)

We should protest against Education board that grammar must be studied at primary level.

Most of students fail and feel difficulties in English. They are 21+.

It is very sick to say. They should avoid studying grammar books. They should not buy discovering the world of English (800 Rs) and By Swan (1600 Rs). They are 22-23 and it is wastage of time and money.

I agree to your views. CSPs should not say us to read grammar; we are 22-23.

Hey, don't think it is Socratic irony. You are right.

My dear, most of the students of our country lack a sound base of grammar.. They study grammar books throughout their academic careers and even afterwards, yet there remain shortcoming or lopes holes somewhere in their grammar skills.. Actually they lack many things in their basics, thus they have to study grammar books even at 22 and over 22..
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My dear, most of the students of our country lack a sound base of grammar.. They study grammar books throughout their academic careers and even afterwards, yet there remain shortcoming or lopes holes somewhere in their grammar skills.. Actually they lack many things in their basics, thus they have to study grammar books even at 22 and over 22..
I second you, indeed. The words you have quoted of mine are ironical.
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