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Here the word "pupils" is used maybe thats why we have to say

My pupils as well as i are doing this work.

What if it was Pupil? Would it be right to say "My pupil as well as i are doing this work".?
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Nominative form: I

Objective form: me

"I" is subject in this sentence hence nominative case of the pronoun is used as subject of verb.

Helping verb should be in agreement with the subject preceding "as well as" hence "are" is used in agreement with "my pupils".

Keeping in view above rules I think correct sentence will be like this:


My pupils as well as I are doing this work.
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correct answer to Zobia Samreen's query is

my pupils as well as i are doing this work


Following is the reason: problems arise when as well as makes a subject compound, so that it calls for a plural verb, or when as well as and its object are set off by intonation or commas, thus making the second element a parenthetical expression that does not affect the agreement of subject with verb: Their seven-foot center as well as their huge forwards were simply too tall for our average-sized players. Their seven-foot center, as well as their huge forwards, was simply too tall for our average-sized players. Both these agreements are Standard, but the second example is clumsy. Probably better than either example would be to drop as well as in favor of a different approach: Their center was too tall, and so were [as were] their forwards. Make sure that your punctuation reflects the way you would speak the sentence, and treat the subject as either singular or compound (and plural) accordingly.


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What if it was Pupil? Would it be right to say "My pupil as well as i are doing this work".?
I think, it would be like that
" My pupil as well as I are doing this work."

An other opinion.
if this is is the sequence.
"I as well as my pupils are doing this work"
And
"Our pupils as well as we are doing this work:
And
"I as well as my pupil is doing this work"
And
"they as well as Ahmad is doing this work"
And
Ahmad as well as faraz is doing this work"
Friends are requested to rectify if i m at mistake.

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An other opinion.
if this is is the sequence.
"I as well as my pupils are doing this work"
And
"Our pupils as well as we are doing this work:
And
"I as well as my pupil is doing this work"
And
"they as well as Ahmad is doing this work"
And
Ahmad as well as faraz is doing this work"
Friends are requested to rectify if i m at mistake.

Sir your sequence is correct to the best of my knowledge
The following passage elaborates the usage of "as well as"

As a subordinating conjunction, as well as is Standard: You know as well as I that he’s a fool. Do your homework as well as you can. As a preposition, it governs prepositional phrase modifiers: He received a new car, as well as several smaller gifts. But many uses that appear at first to be prepositional are really Standard coordinating conjunctions: Visitors came from Canada and the United States, as well as from Europe and the Near East. The main usage problems arise when as well as makes a subject compound, so that it calls for a plural verb, or when as well as and its object are set off by intonation or commas, thus making the second element a parenthetical expression that does not affect the agreement of subject with verb: Their seven-foot center as well as their huge forwards were simply too tall for our average-sized players. Their seven-foot center, as well as their huge forwards, was simply too tall for our average-sized players. Both these agreements are Standard, but the second example is clumsy. Probably better than either example would be to drop as well as in favor of a different approach: Their center was too tall, and so were [as were] their forwards. Make sure that your punctuation reflects the way you would speak the sentence, and treat the subject as either singular or compound (and plural) accordingly.

Source: The Columbia Guide to Standard American English. Copyright © 1993 Columbia University Press
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"as well as" functions as a conjunction in #1, not a preposition:

#1. She was into drama and took part in many youth theater productions as well as [took part in] singing in choirs.

"as well as" has two functions:

conjunction: courageous as well as strong.
preposition: The rhetoric, as well as the reasoning, is appreciated.

Notice the commas on each side of the prepositional phrase. They set off or bar the grammar from counting it as part of the subject. That's why the verb is singular "is", and not plural "are". Take the commas away and the prepositional phrase changes identity. It becomes a conjunction + noun phrase that's counted as part of the subject:

conjunction: The rhetoric as well as the reasoning are appreciated.

Below in #2a, there aren't any commas setting off "as well as" from the grammar, so it's counted as part of the subject. "He as well as I" is a compound subject so the verb should be plural "are" (#2b), not singular "is":

#2a. He as well as I is satisfied with the result. <ungrammatical>
#2b. He as well as I are satisfied with the result.

Subject verb agreement is also a problem for #3a. "He as well as me" is a compound subject; the verb should be plural:

#3a. He as well as me is satisfied with the result. <ungrammatical>
#3b. He as well as me are satisfied with the result.

Now, add in the commas and "as well as" functions as a preposition,

#2c. He, as well as I, is satisfied with the result. <awkward>
#3c. He, as well as me, is satisfied with the result. <awkward>

As a conjunction, "as well as" joins two like forms;i.e., courageous as well as strong; you as well as Sam, but in #3b, below, "as well as" joins two unlike forms, the subject pronoun "He" and the object pronoun "me".

#3b. He as well as me are satisfied with the result. <non-standard>
#3d. He as well as I are satisfied with the result. <standard>

Now, "as well as me" is non-standard English, but nevertheless speakers will use "me" as well as "myself" as a way of placing the other person above them. It's a way of humbling oneself.
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well ,what do u guys say abt this solution

i think it shud be like dis

correct ans :

My pupil as well as I am doing this work.

reason cuz we never say I are or I is doing work so i thought am gonna work more well .

and also

He as well as I am satisfied with the result .

well i m nt sure but if i recall from some rules . we dnt use are or is form with I mostly .

correct me if i am wrong .!

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You can see the prior posts for your correction with reasoning .We are supposed to conform to the rules notwithstanding what sounds correct.
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after reading all , i replied with my opinion .

i just wanted to let u guys know that we dont use "are " or "is" with I , because in grammar we have some rules for "I" only . and "am" is preffered with "I" .

so it sounds more relevant

She as well as I is going to appear in exams [incorrect]

She as well as I are going to appear in exams [incorrect]


She as well as I am going to appear is exams [correct]

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@happy ending

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i just wanted to let u guys know that we dont use "are " or "is" with I , because in grammar we have some rules for "I" only . and "am" is preffered with "I" .
you r right.
the right answer is...
My pupils as well as I is doing this work.
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