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I was hoping to ask you all to help me analyze Islamiat paper so to figure out what is important and what is less important. I have checked previous 6 years papers and my findings are as followed. Please post yours as well so I know if I am making right observations or not.
1- The objective paper is very specific. You need to know a lot of history, facts, figures and names to score a good score there. 2-The subjective portion is general in terms. There are few questions that are bookish in nature like "Define Tauheed (Unity of Allah) in a scholarly manner describing its significance and effects on human life. (2001)" or "Describe the importance and philosophy of Fasting (SAUM). Also explain its individual and collective benefits? (2013)" Some are semi-bookish in nature: "Ijtihad can play an important role in the establishment of Muslim Ummah and the making of Humanity. Discuss." You need to know the terms and then bring your grey matter in to play and some are general which basically refer to whatever is the issue in recent times like veil in France or clash of civilizations. What is meant by civilization and culture and how it effects collective life and also analyzes the foundation of modern civilization and highlights the problems caused by it? (2011) One thing I noticed is that I can't bring the same mentality of Islamiat papers of FSc or Bachelors into CSS's Islamiat paper. This one is for civil servants and it seeks those individuals who if they have to discuss Islam with foreigners, can present a balanced debate: a counter argument but not an extreme position. The subjective paper especially is built like that. Most of the questions if you look closely can be transformed into a thesis statement to write mini essay on or have a debate about in a debate club like: "In the globalization arena what role Muslim Ummah can play being custodian of Revealed Knowledge to resolve the complex problems of human kind? (2010)" Anyways in short, Islamiat paper is not an easy paper and it can easily make you say good bye to your CSP dream. Incidentally, 2016 was the paper in which subjective paper was almost all bookish or semi-bookish. It seems rather odd especially when you look at previous papers of 2009-2015. This brings forth another point in mind; if they seek such individuals as I mentioned by setting a paper like these, what about the paper checkers? Why do we keep on hearing that paper checkers are molvi type people? Anyways, I don't know the answers. Let me know your thoughts. Share your analysis. Will be happy to learn, re-learn or unlearn. Too long, didn't read: Objective paper is rote learning, subjective paper is conceptual and big picture oriented except for 2016, which was mostly bookish. |
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Hey Muhammad, jump on in. I'll try to be a regular here but can't make big promises.
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@zainab s
i will inshallah explain all the points that you have raised in detail. |
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Ursual, bhool tu nahi gayi
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Not at all, old friends and those people who are in conquest of searching the truth would have always been remembered in my prayers;though, this forum has given me lot of pains and I was even thinking to boycott this hellian place:yet dheeth pandy or timid lady has encroached there upon again.
Anyways, life has its own pains and gains reciprocated with peoples exposure, enjoying my life in full momentum,hoping the same from your side as well. Challo ab kam k bat krain. Quote:
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Anyhow I could never like to attempt such a hypothtical statemental question. I have very technical mind, and I would love to place such questions in my waiting list. Quote:
Like, case of blasphemy law and contemporary case of junaid jams aid. Refer to humanity: Isis, Taliban and al-qaeda vs Muslims 90+state, indeed a failure in receiving a good report. Lastly, jurisprudence vs social equality, human prosperity and also influence of religion as a hypocritical factor. Last year I went through a book, written by a Jewish didn't remember title that was maiming directly at the evolution of God --pinpointing the dilemma of Muslim world by saying that Muslims had closed the door of ijtehad at the time when Turkish led ottomon empire refused to place in photocopier instead of calligraphy and that Muslim world all alone fail to achieve remarkable numbers of Nobel prizes when competed with telaviv university. Mam where we are standing,world is laughing at us ---since we have resources, human capital and great innovators, yet we have nothing. Sigh from side. Reason is our ultimate failure to have a strong criticism and supportive counter arguments. Last night I encountered a good source of material related to Gaddaffi---the progressive regime was even the by product of his non compliance to so called muslim.......... I am thinking I must stop here, cause poor dogmatism will delude me utterly. Quote:
Btw: my destination of secular and democratic Muslim world is one, where racism, and religious distinction has no place, I needed a good leader whether he could be a Muslim or non Muslim.Again I strongly believe that all humans are equality and that intelligence is not confined to any ones caste and anyone's religion and anyone's respective geographical division, provided man is given equal opportunity. My favourite personality--Henary Wallace's assertion. Quote:
Mam, even on this forum counter argument is a sin. Quote:
Like what quran says: make your own believes and science also practices this. Similarly, Islam says that save the grimace of humanity by exploring the resources that Allah has hidden in death and skies while modern industrial revolution is second name of same clause. Anyhow performance of Muslim um ah is quite disappointing, we can become true custodians provided we put some extraordinary emphasis on new ideas and innovation of new paths-- much different from that of Arab world and pan islamism. That's my own point of view. I have made a very critical notes, if you like it I would love to share like taking the concept of NATO , EU, and other international organizations vs Muslim um ah as a custodian of perpetual peace, unity and equality. But again, my wordings is tough and won't tolerate those people who have dragged my prophets um ah to such an intolerance level. Quote:
Disclaimer: seniors and religiously intolerant persons keep their business out of such discussion, because I already burnt my heat to the top. Quote:
Just pray for me, I M unsure even I studied a lot and a lot. Quote:
Inshallah. Lastly, I am requesting you to raise a single question at a single post, inshallah I will provide you my already collected material and knowledge, cause I have a strong inclination to share my knowledge and gather the ideas and opinions of other.Though we might be at wrong side. It doesn't matter who is right or wrong. But it does matter how strong you're to defend your arguments. Keep enjoying your life and my friend remember me in your prayers. |
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I don't spend much time here. It is more or less a time eating black hole. I try to limit my time here and spend it on other CSS related activities so my social circle here is very limited. It is hard for me thus to know why and how it got turned into a hellish place for you. I do recall a post in discussion section where you were debating whether Pakistan should be a secular state or not. If this is regarding to that discussion then you shouldn't really bother about it.
Debates, often and especially in online forums revolve around one-upping each other. There is never a dialogue to find a middle ground. We and even to some degree even I, rarely like to change our opinions because we are comfortable in what we believe in. Realizing that may be there is a better alternative or a better side, forces us to think and that my friend is not something we all like. finishing this topic with this quote. It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it. Aristotle One of my favourite quotes. Going back to the post: No I do't plan on doing selective studies but I would like to know which portions need more time. I tend to get myself tangled in unnecessary details so I am trying to get myself little organised. I agree with you that semi-bookish type questions are best to attempt, though I would go for total bookish type questions cause I don't want to take chance with examiners. About your comments regarding ottomon empire and that book written by a Jew: for better or worst, I never placed much value in ummah. History is filled with Muslim civil wars and what not and the disagreements started right after the death of the Prophet (P.B.U.H). We never transcended beyond tribes, races, identities, skin colors and geography. You say that intelligence is not limited to religion and all the factors I mentioned above, so talking about ummah is useless. It is much better to focus on a country and its nation and develop it than worry about whole continents where no one takes you seriously. Even ISIS pays subcontinent soldiers less (as if Arabs were not paying less enough.) Anyways that is a useless debate and I don't want to discuss it. It is just heart breaking when you realize how much potential the whole concept had and how it never went beyond prejudices. After reading your post I wondered why we had a golden age once and I with whatever knowledge I have of that golden Muslim Age, concluded that it is because we stopped asking questions. That time is filled with Muslim philosophers who were not hesitant to ask questions, even Quran, and would debate with open minds. None of them were interested in treating religion as a strict code. They treated it as an open for debate and reforms thing. We on the other hand, nowadays, are doing exactly the opposite. One of the beauty of religion Islam is that it is not frozen in time code and has the ability to change itself and align itself with modern times and technologies. We are chipping that away slowly and gradually in our bid to go back in time to our own versions of Madina community. Each fiqah brings its own ideas to it and no one is willing to even acknowledge other's view. People are even willing to kill others for saying something different that doesn't match their own view of religion. You can't debate in universities for the fear of being labelled blasphemer. How will creativity flow? Who will ask questions and seek answers? who will philosphise and who will go to science to prove/disprove an idea? I laughed and then cried when a Muslim scholar said that let those kafirs build airplanes for us, we are not interested. When they will finish building, we will travel through them. Sigh. I hope you are following US elections. Do you know when Marco Rubio lost to Donald Trump? He lost when he tried to leave his ground and play on an equal level with Trump but he got beaten because that level belonged to Trump and Trump was a champion there. Anyways, back to Islamiat paper. I stopped prepping it for a while because I got sick and was on bed for few days. I however decided to read a book written by Francis Fukuyama, "Political order and political decay." It gave me, a total noob, an overview of history of political order around the world and where it stands. I think it will help me in IR but I am not sure. Why don't you take the lead here? You have learnt more than me about this subject and have better experience. You give me some topic you want to discuss and we go through that (you will have to give me sometime to research it though). Also, don't lose heart, you seem very down. If you would like to review your decision regarding private chats, my email is in my profile.
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Rest of the thing, I am noob and still in the process of learning;perhabs, help me a lot at the later stages of life. Quote:
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Secondly, inshallah, I will do my best to read your book and will try to explain you in simple words. Quote:
Difference b/w deen and religion,and importance of deen in daily life--remember bit tricky in daily life. Present your arguments tomorrow or even a day ahead, since you're feeling blue! Quote:
Anyhow, Last chance and last game of my good luck.Cause everybody loves his/her izzat I nafs (self) the most. Inshallah, don't worry,in case of my leave from this forum, I will definitely contact you. P.s.my two consecutive responses were refreshed because of the power outages in my locality. |
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Thanks for the good wishes.
I am ok now. No need to read the book for me as I am done with it and it gave me quite a lot of knowledge regarding political order of the world. I don't know why but I don't want to discuss Islamiat these days. I am jumping between subjects and there are many that I don't even know A.B.C. of so somehow I keep pushing Islamiat to later days. Let's see what I end up doing. I will post any query here should I get stuck but I am good it seems. Just have to find time to gather all the relevant material from the books that I have. I shall keep in touch. Have a good day.
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Can anyone explain me whats considered an extreme point of view in Islam? If something is in Islam then it is. Why need to sugar-coat the belief for the one who is non/anti-muslim or just to be called a moderate muslim by name !
I believe that Islam is not obsolete, its for all times, nor its extreme by any means for those who are wise enough to understand it to the fullest. We have to decide who we are, a true muslim or a decorated dummy. |
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[/QUOTE] If something is in Islam then it is. Why need to sugar-coat the belief for the one who is non/anti-muslim or just to be called a moderate muslim by name ![/QUOTE] Pardon me, explain it little bit. Quote:
P.S. if you're tolerant enough than I would love to open my lips; otherwise, its wise enough to be silent on the subject matter, and I hope you have gotten it rightly what I have intended to mean it. |
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