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Shah g thanks for this wonderful thread. give me your email as well.
@ all fellows,
The failed candidates results show the bizzare marking as well. Urdu is extremely low scoring. Islamic History is blindly scoring . my friend Abdur Rahim even didn't buy a book for Islamic history n his score is 137.those who have scored 93+95, I wonder, what's so special with their paper n prep which was missing in case of Urdu opters.


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COMPETITIVE EXAMINATION 2009
MARKS SHEET
:: Roll Number : 3237
:: Candidate Name : ABDUL RAHIM
COMPULSORY SUBJECTS
Subject Total Marks Passing Marks Marks Obtained Total Marks Accepted
Essay 100 40 32 32 00
English 100 40 34 34 00
General Knowledge 300 120
GK1 (Everyday Science) 100 40
GK2 (Current Affairs) 100 34
GK3 (Pakistan Affairs) 100 30 104 00
Islamiat 100 40 59 59 59

OPTIONAL SUBJECTS
Subject Total Marks Passing Marks Marks Obtained Total Marks Accepted
Forestry 100 33 46 46 46
Geography 200 66
Paper A 43
Paper B 50 93 93
Islamic History and Culture 200 66
Paper A 65
Paper B 72 137 137
Journalism 100 33 45 45 45

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Total Marks FAILED IN COMPULSORY 380
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My email id is in my profile as well , its s_a_h_2@hotmail.com

now the case SDm has mentioned , this guy has done poorly in all the subjects(no offence meant,just an analysis) but Islamic history "tulla" is present in his marks as well. All those who have passed this year and have Islamic history as optional will do very well



@ inayat

Well ,if you have read bestseller "alchemist" by paulo Coelho ,you would be familiar with the term he uses "Maktub" meaning "it is written" so buddy you dint do anything wrong it was just not in your destiny to pass this time so dnt worry. it happens...

@ leopard and ppl with simialr thought

i think demand and supply is partially valid but Indo PAk history always has a very high supply of candidates and still its marks fluctuate

@Maneka ,me and Orange hair

maneka Sb ap tou serius he hogaey hain about me dying my hair orangeAb to lagta hai app mukernay b nahi deyn gay

"Usnay ik baar kaha tha k mujhay tumsay muhabbat hai
Phir Adeem menay usay mukarnay na diya...(i hope koi galti nahi krdi menay iss ko likhnay mein.corrections are welcomed)


PS. I am in a hurry right now hopefully will dig further in this "phenomenon" (as Maneka put it)later and if required.
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Phir Adeem menay usay mukarnay na diya...(i hope koi galti nahi krdi menay iss ko likhnay mein.corrections are welcomed)
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At least give credit to Shah Sahib here,

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At least give credit to Shah Sahib here,

Kaafia Radeef to ounhoon ne bhi khooob jora hay .

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Insaan ghalaati ka putla hay :p


I knew I would invite trouble with this , I only remotely remembered it ,but when you have the Royal Queen of literature around there is nothing to worry about

and also atleast I got "Adeem" right

Thanks Maneka for giving the devil his due
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assalam aallikom brothers,
i am ,here in this thread, earnestly apologising
to political science. As i came across upon the result of CSS2009.
i have observed that all the optional subjects such as ---history of indo-pak
,, islamic history ,geography, sociology, journalism, ets ----are highly marked
and the candidates are gifted with above 60 marks,, however in the case of
political science it is reciprocal. political science is strictely chacked as in the past few years,, i cant understand why the commission has
this descreminatery policy towards P.science..
POLITICAL SCIENCE is a subject which equip the mantal horizon of new generation about the national & international politics, it
amplifies our accumen in deplomicy and improves our leadership qualities.
nevertheless, the biased attitude of examiners are discouraging the upcoming
candidates to divert from P,science and tacitely compel them to go for
alternative subject.. i , wholeheartedly comdem this trend against master of all social sciences--political science--
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i am agreed with saadat

in 2007 with very little preparation i got 120 in indo pak
in 2008 when expected 140, i got 115 marks

same was in urdu in 2008 i got 117

Thanks to Allah that i am allocated
but it is truly an unfair trend in such an exam where 1 mark changes ur group
and where u cross 25-30 students with 5-6 marks in final merit calculation
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but it is truly an unfair trend in such an exam where 1 mark changes ur group
and where u cross 25-30 students with 5-6 marks in final merit calculation
Well what do you suggest if there are 20-30 candidates with equal marks? What should be done then ?

There has to be a formula to compile the merit.
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Well what do you suggest if there are 20-30 candidates with equal marks? What should be done then ?

There has to be a formula to compile the merit.
If the formula for deciding the merit was in question here, the commission seems having no other option...

But, I think maria_3708 was objecting to the change in scoring trends in subsequent years... not the formula for compilation of merit
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Shah Sahb,u r right that sometime low scoring subjects jump to be high scoring and next time high scoring turns to be low scoring.
My marks in CSS 2009 are:
Roll Number 1059
Essay 41
Precis 50
GK total 89
IR 24
Islamic History and Culture 134
Journalism 35
Sindhi 70
Sociology 51
Total Marks 439.
Failed in Compulsory.

Now Iam unable to get that how I failed in IR. Plz help anyone if someone has relavency to IR Subject.
Aslaam O Alekum,
I attempted CSS 209,and failed in International Relations paper. I attempted the questions well but I was awarded just 24 marks. My fifteen MCQs were correct,it means I secured just 9 marks out of 80 in the written portion. I am unable to ascertain the cause that why I failed in IR.

The questions that I attempted and how I attempted are comprehensively put here. Please go through them in detail, point out the errors, guide me where necessary, and suggest me that what I should do now.

INTERNATIONAL RELATIONS, CSS 2009.
Q.3. Discuss the importance of International Relations as a field of Study?

Answer: I.R is the study of relations between the sovereign states of the world. Before World War I and II there was little importance of IR for the most of states were under the subjugation of powerful countries like the UK, Germany, Rusia,etc. But the significance of IR greatly increased after World War II, when the world changed to bipolar from the multipolar, and this way the number of sovereign states swelled greatly.

When more sovereign states created, the foreign plocicy, diplomacy and national interest like matters sprung among these states and IR played a pivotal role in providing a comprehensive detail and study of these terms.

IR has its matter, methodology and theories thus it is a very important field of study. This has stared playing a vital role in world politics also. This is because of the study of IR that whatever changes occur in the world politics, IR experts and analysts are invited to analyse the situation and provide its effects and solution.

There is no denying of the fact that IR has great value owing to have its characteristic of its being as a field of study.


Q.6.What factors were responsible for Creation of the Warsaw and Nato Pacts.Can Nato’s continuing existence be justified.

Answer: After World War II,the world super power order changed. Before this war the world was a multipolar was many superpowers, but with the end of World War II,the world became bipolar, only two super powers existed and these were USSR and the USA. The power struggle increased between both. Both countries started taking each other as her enemy.

The power struggle and fear were the causes that resulted in the creation of Warsaw Pact and Nato Pact. Warsaw pact was established by the USSR in response to the creation of NATO by the US. Warsaw Pact was established in 1955, as a reaction to NATO that was established in 1949. Establishment of NATO was to counterbalance the power of USSR that had blocked the passage of the US supply of water and food to an occupied part of the US.

NATO was established to counterweight the power of USSR, but USSR disintegrated in 1991. There has now remained no USSR and Warsaw Pact, thus the existence of NATO is out of understanding and appears to be as a threat to the sovereign states. NATO has been acting as a puppet in the hands of the US and there are fears that it may be directed to any country and violate the sovereign status of the sovereign conunties. NATO is viewd as a threat by the analysts to the sovereigny of week states of Asia.

For the sake of balance of power in Asia and harmonius relations between powerful and weak countries, NATO must dismantle its functions and the US should terminate its unjustified existence.

Question: 7.Critically Evaluate American Foreign Policy towards Pakistan.

Answer. America has always played a fair weather friend role with Pakistan. Pakistan has always showed sincerity with the US. Now the relations of both countries are some how friendly but are not so good.

The history represents that the US foreign policy was never in favour of Pakistan. Her forign policy every time changed all of sudden ant took a u-turn. In 1965 and 1971 wars of Pakistan with India,the US had distanced herself away from Pakistan. When the USSR left Afghanistan,the interests of the US ended with Pakistan, thus the US departed Pakistan. When India did its nuclear missile test there were no sanctions on it, but when Pakistan did so in 1998,there were economic sanctions on Pakistan.

The US Foreign Policy with Pakistan has always been attached on the basis of the US interests in South Asia. The US never benefited Pakistan, despite the fact the Pakistan always proved herself a true ally of the US. Despite all these grievances of Pakistan, there has been good relations between both countries time by time, although for short term.

Questiion:8. What is Nuclear Proliferation? How for the United States of America is justified in making a nuclear deal with India.

Answer: Nuclear Proliferation means increase and transfer of the nuclear technology. There is a ban at international level in Nuclear Proliferation.

The relations between Pakistan and India have remained strained since the independence of both. There has been fought three Indo-Pak wars so far. The relations between India and Pakistan are still tense. The US nuclear deal would certainly cause imbalance of power between Pakistan and India. And this deal will also have a great impact on already vulnerable security apparatus of South Asia.

There is also ban on transfer of any nuclear technology and this deal also falls within the ambit of violation of United Nations rules that do not allow any kind of nuclear proliferation. And India and Pakistan are already nuclear powers and increase in power of any country may lead atomic war between both. This nuclear war would not be confined to South Asia only, but it will engulf the entire world.

Keeping in view the International rules of the world and tense and vulnerable relations of India and Pakistan, it is clear that such a unilateral nuclear deal is unjustified. The US needs to review its policy and act sensibly. If such a deal is strictly needed, then this sort of deal must me made with Pakistan for the balance and stability of Asia.
@ inayatrustamani

Usually , there are two reaons for such a extreme failure.

1. Big Blunder: Like if you write Lahore as a capital of Pakistan.

2. Lack of Basic Concept of Question: Means, you dont know the basic theme or concept of the topic and the examiner feels that

the student dont have basic concept.

Now come to your paper.


Questiion:8. What is Nuclear Proliferation? How for the United States of America is justified in making a nuclear deal with India.

Nuclear proliferation is the topic of discussion around NPT and CTBT. Its origin , its need, why the nuclear decleared states had

signed it. North Korea and Iran Issue etc. There is no any thing like that in your answer . Without talking

about NPT, your answer is worthless
In second part, You should mention about IAEA , should not mention like UN rules (ITS A BLUNDER). ANd you should mention that

India is the non signatory of NTP.
There is no logic behind that if India and pak wage a Nuclear war, the entire globe will indulge in Nuclear War.

Question: 7.Critically Evaluate American Foreign Policy towards Pakistan.

This attempt is seemed to be better, but still have many flaws.
US policy had not taken U turn or have sudden policy. U turn forieng policy term is specifically used for pakistan toward US after 9/11

(its a BLUNDER). this term is not implemented for US. You could write inconsistance policy of US.


Q.6.What factors were responsible for Creation of the Warsaw and Nato Pacts.Can Nato’s continuing existence be justified.


Completely missing to provide the major theme and concept of question.
There was a Bolshevik Revolution in Russia and Communism emerged just before WWR1. After that, Russia had rapidly increasing

its communism philosophy in the region and extending its influence to Eastern Europe and in other neighbouring contries etc.
But USA and Europe had the capitalist philosophy,. US wanted to curtail communism,
So it was the major reason of creation of NATO.


Q.3. Discuss the importance of International Relations as a field of Study?


Sovereign states exist since 1800's. (You have made Bluder)
IR subject become mature after the WWR2, It is true, BUT it is not required in question. The question is not about, Is IR a subject or

not ?.... But, question is about its importance.
You should include many things like...
a. mportance of IR with the timeline, means Before WWR1, After WWR1, After WWR2, After Russia collapes, After 9/11 etc..

b. Importance of IR in the International Laws,
c. Importance of IR in treaties like NPT, geneva convention
d. Importance of IR to know about the economic challenges, (Economic Imperialism) etc
c. Importance of IR wrt organization ...
f. diplomacy,
and you can include all the topics of IR in the importance of IR subject.



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Ali Raza

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I totally agree with the very notion of luck as I've been a victim of it myself i opted for Eng-Literature and Journalism,i scored 65 in essay and 60 in English but i failed in aggregate solely because of the fact that i scored just 95 in Literature and 56 in Journalism .Having said that *sigh* being an Mphil in Literature i had a very firm grip in literary analysis and theoretical framework ,I gave oral references from the texts of assorted writers and poets; i even quoted infinitesimal times in each question the very verses and statements as well as dialogues ,analytically dissected the questions into halves and then elucidated and illustrated it with opinions,trends,age,and contemporary evidences.The whole paper was in my range and i was one of the very few who came out gleaming with confidence BUT when i saw the mark sheet i felt like splitting my HAIR urghhhhhhhhhh now i regret opting for Literature and journalism but like everyone else who can empathize with me i was being told that you can easily score 120+ and 75+ in both subjects one of my seniors actually did but that was last year...Ah guess my karma forestalled me from achieving ultimate success never the less Experience of a Lifetime Best of Luck to the lucky lot ,nail it folks
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