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The present military consensus of arab league proves that the sect is thicker than religion itself.
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I agree that it shouldn't join the war, but how is it even possible for Pakistan to stay neutral at this stage? Pakistan is too deep in to get out now.
very wellsaid i will second the opinion, and will take the courage to explain the idea a liitle in detail. We must know the fact that the wishes can not be policy.Since Pakistan has never been a non align country, its either you are with us or against us kind of situation for it. If we side with saudia it will annoy our iranian brothers, who share a common border with us towards west. Staying neutral will irk our arab lords who have been generous enough to gift us approx 1.2 billion dollar for free amongst so much more overt and covert tips for our services to the kingdom. Not to forget the say of both countries in rival sectarian groups in Pakistan.
Having a huge weapons storage and a great number of trained manpower Pakistan simply becomes a key player in this scenario.(And history tells that Pakistan loves to be so) The sectarian prowess of the country must also be kept in mind while estimating its significance in Yemen crisis. Now in this situation alliance with any of the country, or even staying neutral will bear some unpleasant consequences. So yes the situation is ripe for Pakistan. Infact it may start giving the foul smell within few days.
Political heads doesnot deserve as much criticism as they are facing right now. These poor incompetent fellows are struck between the ''devil'' and the ''deep blue sea''. Now choose for yourself that who is who. and yes dont be blasphemous while choosing
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Tell me why did Houthis topple an elected government in Yemen? Some people are of the view that Pakistan cannot stay neutral in such a scenario. They say Houthis are backed by Iran and they illegally toppled the Yemen government. Now Saudi Arabia while condemning this act also fears that the minority there in Saudi can also rise up and challenge their kingship. So basically it is a sectarian war. Now Pakistan cannot follow the policy of non-alignment since it has better "economic" ties with Saudi. Second, religiously too, Pakistan is more likely to help the Saudis than Iranians or the houthis.

What are your views on it? I would say if Saudis are our brothers so are Iranians and hence we must stay neutral. What I would like to know is why did the houthis topple an elected legal government, hmm.
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its a bit chaotic situation to incline towards any side in Yemen war despite of all the sympathies of political administration with KSA. in other perspective this could be a cross game of USA to put pressure on Iran to comply with nuclear agreement on their given terms and conditions. Apart from the geopolitics Pakistan should restrain itself from taking part openly in the Yemen war and also neither Pakistan deny clearly to support KSA as it helped Pakistan a lot in adversities. Though seeking the solution through dialogue can only be a peace solution in the prevailing chaotic situation in middle east. Pakistan can act as a facilitator in the dialogue and political process.
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i don,t think pakistan should help a kingdom to maintain a elected government in yemen, if you have interests with KSA you also can,t neglect Iran,s position in this region. One more thing we had martial law many times it was our national matter no one attacked us to save civil government, now why we are planning to save yemen,s elected government. same unity needed against Israel hut everyone is neglecting.
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Yemen a regional theatre of the proxy wars

This Middle East conundrum and crazy Arab Identity race should carefully be tackled by Pakistan. The situation in Yemen is, by any description, incendiary and Pakistan, as matters stand, appears to be getting ready to jump into the fray.

It is thorny for Pakistan to play favourites with either Saudi or Iran — considering Pakistan’s strategic relationship with the former and geographical proximity with the latter. Considering in-house sectarian issues, own predicament, geo-political issues neutrality would have been the wisest option for Pakistan. Negotiator not the participant in Yemen conflict would work. Getting involved in what is essentially an internal conflict is unwise. Pakistan should not forget that Saudi has fueled and funded extremism in Pakistan, a fact which has been officially accepted and declared publicly by Government of Pakistan. Similar is the role of Iran. Alas! We have very short memories. International players like USA, Israel, Arab conglomeration etc. have their vested interests in this game. Having known these ground realities Pakistan needs to tread carefully and opt for diplomatic solution.

Saudi tries to garner support on the platform of OIC. Current slant of historically impotent OIC is a function of it becoming hostage to political bickering and bipolar Muslim world i.e. Saudi Arabia and Iran.

Pakistan’s assertion to evoke a strong response in case of any threat to Saudi Arabia’s territorial integrity is a fine flirt. Pakistan should continue to flirt with Arabs and keep the diplomatic wheels turning but refrain from putting boots on the ground. Boys should hold their horses and use their brain.

Family friendships and indebtness slavery should not influence strategic decisions. We need to learn from our past mistakes of proxy wars, cold war, and paid/hired fighters roles. Selling boots or letting these on rent is lucrative business of the modern era but we can’t afford in this scenario.

And for God sake don’t be emotionally carried away by the cause of Qaba, nobody is gonna dare to attack our Holy place. We are being emotionally exploited by Arabs.
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Respected sir
my simple question is
Are Muslim countries too naive to understand what is ground reality
for example America is supporting alnusra(pro Sunni)in Syria.
noori all malki in Iraq(Shiite gov) and again in yeman (Sunni) and in Pakistan all of us know very well!!!!!,,,
is it a musical chair...........
why Muslim countries are not making their own army as like NATO???
and where Arab leaque is sleeping?????
my opinion is that since Pakistan has multidimensional role...
how Pakistan can proceed both the parties on table rather than a play ground.while yemanz president is demanding from ksa to launch inland ground attacks??
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@Sir Raz, I want to ask why did the houthis topple an elected legal government?
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dear alinaaa
is it elected government when you have just one contesting candidate.
Hadis s government is among those which is said to be facism.........
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I agree that it shouldn't join the war, but how is it even possible for Pakistan to stay neutral at this stage? Pakistan is too deep in to get out now.

this is the critical situation for Pakistan to think over if Pakistan is going to be the part of such a which is not of it's own nor of it's occupants, then it has to pay huge for it in suicide, and targeted killings.
I think before indulging in someone other's war we must try to eradicate the terrorism and extremism from our own dear homeland.
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