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These measures can prevent floods to good extent. But, is this all we can do to save innocent lives, agriculture, infrastructure and other valuables.
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I think if the dam politics of some political parties will be finish, these floods will turn into resources for us.
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just one liner point...only one reason is that is mismanagement
i think gov should has to priorities Last edited by Man Jaanbazam; Thursday, July 30, 2015 at 02:10 PM. Reason: merge chain posts |
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being a civil engineer, well fully know about the importance of storage reservoirs in Pakistan.More than 50% capacities of already existing reservoir has been silted, rising of Terbela dam to its maximum capacity is the embodiment example, if only the Kala Bagh reservoir is built the whole flood water can be stored in that reservoir and that stored water is sufficient to irrigate whole agricultural land of Punjab.Thus the main reasons for frequent flooding in Pakistan is lack of storage capacity of flooded water and utter ignorance of government who did not pay any heed to the advice oh hydraulics specialist in Pakistan whom vociferously appraising the importance of dams and reservoirs and also indicating V-sign for its geological and economical reports.
Another standing impediments is feudal war among the four provinces, until and unless these must be cut short, terrible floods cannot be avoided, as India is on fire in discharging extra water in millions cusecs from river Chenab and Indus. |
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the reason behind these floods first off all is that we r not following the rules and regulations of islam and mostly of us are not spending our lives under the circumstances of islam,, but if we talk according to science is the main reason of these harsh condition is global warming,, every season in pakistan and all over country are little bit changes and seems to b abnormal..
besides these reasons.. all of us know and mentally prepared about these type conditions but physically we are doing noting for it to face these problems.. no any type of precautionary measures have been taken since these conditions are start developing.. |
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The Fault -Is Definitely Not- In Our Stars.
Its a writing on the wall that We have failed in diplomacy which is failing us both within and without, that is to say lack of co ordination between the provinces, with in the provinces, and, with the eastern neighbours is the main reason in my view.
In Pakistan, Water diplomacy is hinged upon "kashmir" only or if someone poses to be a real thinker it ends on "kalabagh dam", (Kashmir k lie India se lrne ko tayyar hien hum, or kalabagh k naam per ek dusre se lrne ko tayyar) No doubt both of them are of prime importance but there are always better and alternative ways to be explored, for which hiring the technocrats can be one good option.
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Waiting Anxiously
Dear brothers
Please tell me that what are the political and other logical reasons to not buid kalabagh dam |
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1). As per my opinion recent floods are more a natural calamity then mismanagement. Natural calamity to the fact that torrential rainfall occurred at the mountains, which resulted in landsliding, breakage of bridges and overflow in upper and lower Indus plains. Mismanagement to the extent that (i) dams, better to say big dams like Kalabagh or Diamer-Bhasha were not constructed (ii) dykes not erected in the course of big rivers. However, a point to be kept in mind is, even big dams can store upto a limited extent then additional water is required to be let go. So the recent floods and those of 2010/2011 in Swat and Nowshera etc are natural calamities and could not be stopped by dams. 2) This natural calamity is result of three things, first is the natural course of action, which can be repeated after some years, second is global warming as whole world is witnessing gradual increase in atmospheric temperature and third is a conspiracy theory of US HARP project at Alaska that US experiments with the world weather. But in my opinion this is just a conspiracy theory beyond reality. 3) To study recent floods, we have to see geography of Pakistan and some geographical concepts of a river. In its early stage, a river is a mighty giant and does devastations, in second stage/maturity stage a river slows down and expands in plains/throw out its sediments and third is the delta stage. It's a natural process and is existing since creation of the earth. In our case, the rivers in mountainous ranges of Karakoram, Hindukush and Himalayas are mighty and whenever there is torrential rainfall streams and nullahs wreck havoc as happened at Chitral, Skardu and Astore. We cannot control this phenomenon by making dams (because v-shape valleys can store less water and big dams are not feasible there) but decrease loss through good watershed management techniques. In second stage, river water (Indus and its tributaries) slows down in the plains of Peshawar, upper and lower Indus plains i.e. Punjab and Sindh respectively. Loss in plains can be minimized through creation of dams, barrages and dykes as well as by adopting watershed management. Quote:
"Behold! In the creation of the heavens and the earth; in the alternation of the night and the day; in the sailing of the ships through the ocean for the benefit of mankind; in the rain which Allah Sends down from the skies, and the life which He gives therewith to an earth that is dead; in the beasts of all kinds that He scatters through the earth; in the change of the winds, and the clouds which they trail like their slaves between the sky and the earth -- (Here) indeed are Signs for a people that are wise." (2:164) "And He has subjected to you, as from Him, all that is in the heavens and on earth: behold, in that are signs indeed for those who reflect." (45: 13) Quote:
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I believe that "Indian Water Terrorism" is a fact that cannot be denied yet it is not the main cause of the floods. It is just one of the many factors that are contributing to floods. The main reason of floods in Pakistan is poor Planning & Management of all resources including water. Being a growing economy that is undergoing rapid urbanization and industrialization, the demand of energy is increasing in Pakistan, So Dams should be constructed on priority basis to ensure this growth and to overcome the ongoing energy crisis.
Unfortunately, this growth is at the cost of damage to our environment. Hence, environmental laws should be improved and implemented. Furthermore, Policy making should be done taking into account sustainability factor and global climate changes. Otherwise, we will face more events like recent floods and heat wave in Karachi. |
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foremost need to counteract the natural calamities is to desiltation of dams to raise the storage level for water up to great extent secondly new dams must be constructed early as possible regardless of its size thirdly recommendation of flood commission should be enforced expediently fourthly national disaster management authority should hold unlimited powers and sole sovereign authorize body finally and most important is answerability enforcement bodies should be accountable for their role and duty . All such kind of strategies will help to sought out the troubles of disasters .Moreover indian grudge plays a pivotal role in boosting the strength of flood eventually that will become source of destruction .
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