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I cannot understand the thinking of some fellow forum members, who are trying to start pondering on veracity of Aafia's issue and speaking on the spur of some western articles and statements that she is not innocent and have something to do with the Al-Qaeda and terrorist organizations.. !
Come on, dont run for illusions.. Is this not a fact that she had remained absent with her three minors from 2002 ? She might be having some soft corner for Taliban groups, but she was a mother and not insane to take her three small childern for Jihad.!! Off course, she was abducted.. now question arises who abducted her and why ! you people are not idiots to go for the actual scenario that she was abducted by the western minded people and later transfered to Afghanistan.. !! What do you think that from 2002 to 2010-time of her going missing and her trial- she was having good mental condition and good time in a state to defend herself! Come on dont have childish thinking. .. She would have faced worst mental torture, we are humans, we dont have steel nerves to face everything and for so much time, any body from you cannot sustain such mental torture of even a week and after one week you could be in a such condition that you would even claim that you did 9/11 and you are with Al-Qaeeda.. and she has faced all that for eight years, fellows us ko tu apna name bhi nae pata ho ga and you are clamouring she is not innocent.... !!! I dont stress she is innocent or not, but if she had links with Al-Qaeda than why they have not trialed her for it ? See post of Ali Ahmed Syed, he has tried to point out what were the cases for which she was trialled.. ! and factsheet in post of invincible.. ... It is weakness of our government that they are not pursuing her case well, they are just trying to gain support that they have done something and doing... !!! Summing up, dear fellows try to be pragmatic and think rationally, she is not at all so much big war criminal to face have such verdict.. ~ |
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Dr Aafia Siddiqi's case: some option.
I threw light on this Topic in my earlier post. Then I sent the same to DAWN newspaper , the same night.
My letter was Published today on September 25, 2010. You may see it. It is as follows: http://epaper.dawn.com/ArticleText.a...9_2010_006_002
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A Brief History,it may help to comprehend her case.
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whether dr.aafia is guilty or not, that is another query.but as far as her arrival and bail is concerned, there is a breaking news which was issued recently on DUNYA NEWS channel.
the sources of american embassy have confirmed that during the sitting with interior minister rehman malik, they informed him that dr.aafia could be handed over to pakistan ,if;pakistan signs these two agreements : 1]OAS convention http://webcache.googleusercontent.co...&ct=clnk&gl=pk 2] council of european treaty http://conventions.coe.int/Treaty/en...s/html/112.htm ----------the above mentioned treaties are related to the transfer of prisoners b/w countries. the following countries have already signed these; bolivia,kargyzstan,turkey,s.africa,s.korea and many others. ----but we are not the members of such fruitful pacts. now,the question arises why inspite of six consecutive reminders from american foreign office the pakistani authorities couldn,t take such initiatives.according to the sources the following are the merits of signing these treaties: a]cost free solution of dr.aafia,s trauma b] could put ice on anti-american and anti-govt sentiments c]we could be able to question the asylum of criminals in america and europe. but, the govt. of pakistan failed to show any urgency at this issue. now, tell who is responsible for dr.aafia,s sentense? |
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Since everyone is so much in favor of the supremacy of law and I guess they all presume that it all went according to law. I just want to know according to what law was she kidnapped by American or Pakistani authorities and then taken to US for trial. What norms of international law were followed by US while attacking two countries. There is no thing is as just law in international affairs and its just about might.
Its sad to see that some of us are so naive that they actually think that proper procedures of law were followed without prejudice. The only way to have her released would've been by revoking some of the concessions that we have granted US and they would've gone to any lengths to release her. Now they will do the same to us in releasing her and we will be the one granting further concessions. Spending hefty amounts on lawyers reportedly $2mn so far is not that way to go about this. Thanks to Musharraf I guess.
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She is a terrorist. Get over this simple fact. Do yourself a favour and read about her:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aafia_Siddiqui Last edited by Silent.Volcano; Sunday, September 26, 2010 at 07:19 PM. |
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They kidnapped her, they alleged her, they tortured her, they put her on a trial, they sentenced her and they made the wiki page. For us, who believe she is not a terrorist, this page doesn't make any difference. Signs of torture are obvious that they inflicted on her for so many years. List down the terrorist activities she has carried out so far. Any? Who is the real terrorist?
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@ last Island
They did not kidnap her as USA has a law that authorise them to arrest any person, from any country that has involvement in terrorism. Some people call it "kidnapping" And they alleged him. Yes what other they expect to do ? They tortured her. That is a standard practice everywhere. What our investegators do with hard-core criminals ? They put her on trial. That is a civilized way. They did not kill her in "police Muqabala" They sentenced her. She found guilty after the due process of law of the land. They made the wiki page. Wiki page is open to all for writing. You can write as well on wiki and it is up to reader to believe or not. (I am not Americi agent. Just a plain pakistani)
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We all are plain Pakistani .. I dont know why sociologist and riazuddin are trying to put blame on afia only.. fellows please dont mind and take to heart; just try to analyze it pragmatically and rationale..
This is not at all legal that you kidnap a woman with her minor childs from another country without full information/evidences, through her in dungeon for many years and after then take her out put allegations on some other issues on her and thn hold trial on something else.. .. She is terrorist and having links with Al Qaeeda? okay she may have, but ALLAH k bando trial her on those allegations, why the hell they are putting her in 2003 and kept her in jail without any trial and in 2008 they are formally arresting her on allegations of firing and thn issuing verdict.. .. from 2002 to 2008 where was she ? was she playing with her childern in Murree Abbotabad hills or teaching them arts of bombing in Tora Bora ?? Come on dont have childish approach.. Killing her innocent childern is not terrorism.. ? keeping her in worst mental and phsyical torture for more than five years is not terrorism.. .. ? Trialling her on some other allegations is not terrorism.. ? Imprison her for 86 years is not terrorism? Come on buddies, open up your mind.. I am not at all in favour of any terrorist, but listen carefuly, if she had been a terrorist thn those have extracted much information from her in five dark years and now she is not mentally okay to start up for any other terrorist activity.. .. And if at all she was terrorist, then why the hell they have kept her alive, simply must have shot her dead in 2003 as had been done with many others... ! Riazuddin bravely placed link of wikipedia clamoring she is terrorist, but have not tried to analyze the information completely.. What for alternative scenario and ahmd siddiqui's account ?? Is that also not truth?
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"Some words at the moment of injustice and brutility"
kyun aankh main bhtay hue ashkon ki lari hai, Chup reh mere hum watan qayamat ki ghari hai, Hota hai kuch gumaan sa maidaan-e-hashar ka, Har ik musalmaan ko apni apni pari hai, Mit jaye mera dais ye halaat bna kar, Atraaf ki har qaum tmashey pe khari hai, Phir surkh surkh hai daryaon ka pani, Lgta hai kahin khun ki barsaat pari hai, In zalimo ko jarr se mita de mere Allah, Sb haath utha lo k duaon ki ghari hai. |
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