@invincible,

one thing more my dear, Govt. already took the action and they are not participating in any talk show/programme hosted by the anti-govt channel.

If this way, i'll quote a saying of Napolean: " If we are smoking a cigarette in our office timing, we are doing corruption." I guess we all are then corrupt instead of blamming media or others. Then we are not suppose to organize any human right, price hike, corruption etc discussions. Then the word "revolution" will become a verb in Pakistan to overcome all such poor happening. And you or me will not be the part of it, infact it will be started by the people dying of hunger and thirst, having no basic necessity of life. Because you are sitting in UAE n your first preference will be your job security and me using my laptop in home with everything available.
Despite all this, there should be hope, a person or a leader to lead, to whom people could follow, who could raise the voice of such poor people lying on roads, which we don't have and that can be you or me or any one called pakistani.
Whatever we are or one is, we should not bind one's personal like with his professional life. whether he is a journalist, leader, common man, or bureaucrate. Quaid e Azam was a leader, and i think you also don't know about his personal life and scandals. Who gave us the constitution? Zulfiqar Ali bhutto! and most of us know what type of person he was off the record. And it was also he who wished pakistan to become a nuclear power and so we are!
Therefore, lot of things are concerened and interconnected to each other and some are not !

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this is the thing that i want to say since long time my dear. We should have to correct overselves first than move towards others....
our nation have not so much capacity to bring any revolution. We are "bay-Hiss" people.

We need a leader to bring prosperity in the life, not so called "free-media" to bring tensions and stresses.
Now a days, media's prime responsibility is to spread awarness among the people. Without awarness freedom of 'anything' will be disatrous. We can judge the "success" of media that Balochi tb bhe apnay ap ko mazlloom samghta tha jub media azad nahi tha or ab bhe apnay ap ko mazloom he samghta hai jub media azad hai. Rural areas main logon ko kush sall pehly bhe realities about the country nahi pta the or ab bhe nahi pta hain jub k "media azad" hai. Sindhi or Pathan or Balochi pehlay bhe punjabiyon k apna dushman samghtay thay or ab bhe dushman samghtay hain jub k "media azad" hai.
just tell brother, what is the success of this media? Musharraf ke hakomat ko khatm kiya,,,bus! or iss nay humain pishlay 10 years main kiya diya hai. kitni awarness iss nay phela le hai? Despite of spreading the awarness it bring us on the road of uncertanity.
Kiya corruption sirf Pakistan main hai or baqi sari duniya main farishtay rehtay hain?
yeh media humain day to kush nahi saki, but yes "humari Tourist Industry bhe tbah kr k rakh de hai". We are facing loss of billions my dear. or jitna image country ka media nay tbah kiya hai itna kisse nay bhe nahi kiya ho ga my dear.
i tell you my personal story, few days ago, i invited my G.M(he is from England) to come with me and visit my country. you know what was his answer....." no dear, i want to live some days more"
just consider if a person is not willing to come to pakistan on visit than tell me how is it possible that anybody invest in Pakistan.
humari economy ko itna nuksan corruption nay nahyi pahunchaya jitna hmaray "azad media" nay pahuncha diya hai.
We should apply this now a days also and media should also follow this.

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I agree with Tipu Shah Sahab.

I am not going to quote my previous messages, but the thing is this anarchic media should be controlled as this is the private sector but due to their increasing power and autonomous nature, thrilling news, obnoxious insults of higher-ups, no one will dare to question them.

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@Tipu

Your thinkings should be much wider and broader. Such impression of pakistan is not made by media infact it was after 9/11, the war on terror that was imposed on Pakistan and then the policies adopted by govt which resulted in immense sucide attacks. All such things are continuity of that. you should speak on the basis of facts and figure. You should be realistic and should have well knowledge if you want to debate. The theme of punjabi, pathan, sindhi, balochi placed by one of my friend is not only because of media. Infact local elements/leaders are the key players of that. They dont want them to educate their people and they want to remain "vadera, Nawab, Choudhary, Saeen, peer etc." Their own children study in Aitchison and the don't even allow govt to make high schools in their locality. Most of the allegations made by my friend is concerned with govt and its the duty of govt and their MNAs and MPAs to avoid such provincialism by bold steps. Media is not that much concerned with it. They don't even allow media to reach in their primices. In their homes they have Dish TV installed but they don't allow cable to reach such areas. and if any facility is reached by chance, it will be blown up by so called terrorists or local. These are all govt duties which you are impelling on MEDIA.
If you want to criticize media than be realistic, prove your examples with logics and reasoning by quoting some relevant example. I guess you have just opened your guns towards media with something odd in your mind.
Okay we will not go far behind in history, we will talk about a former week. I guess you must be watching 3/4 talk shows daily on different news channels like geo, ary, duniya, express, aaj, thats why you have lot of knowledge. ok tell me what media is doing negative these days in their news and debates they organize?? I quoted recent examples in my former replies in favour of my point of view. What you will quote? and how you will justify yourself?
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I dnt know k iss forum main hr dosra banda apnay ilawa sub ko jahil kiyon samghta hai? i think i did a great mistake to be the member of such type of forum where people are participating in discussion but they are acting like a illiterate people.

.... bhai sb 9/11 say pehlay to media ka koi role banta he nahi tha.... main to ab ke baaat kr raha hon k jub hum nay war against terror start ke to media start say he khilaf ho giya or ab esa lagta hai k war afghanistan main nahi pakistan main ho rahi hai... there way or presenting the news of Blast is just like they are saying that Taliban are getting Power day by day in Pakistan and Pakistan has nothing to do with them....You should be realistic and should have well knowledge if you want to debate. my dear, yeheee to main keh raha hon k Balochi jo pehlay bhe unaware tha or ab bhe unaware hai, sindhi or pathan or punjabi pehlay bhe unaware thay or ab bhe wesay he hain, tu media ka kiya kirdar hai meray bhai? usnay kiya kiya hai? kitna aik awarness phela de hai?

o sir je i want to say, media aisee awarness kiyon nahi phelata k federal govt. provinces k sath hai or koi na insafi nahi ho rahi, sub baloch, sindhi, pathan, panjabi, mohajir sub k sub pakistani hain,,, yeh impression denay main media kiyon fail ho giya hai bhai sb.?
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If you want to criticize media than be realistic, prove your examples with logics and reasoning by quoting some relevant example. I guess you have just opened your guns towards media with something odd in your mind.
Okay we will not go far behind in history, we will talk about a former week. my dear TALk SHOWS main knowledge bhe hota hai?
or by the way ap ko bta do k yahan meray pas only AAj TV he hai my dear.and remaining is Al-jazeera, BBC, sky news etc......

I think if you read my previous posts i justified it. anyhow i repeat again.
agr 10 ghantay 1 he news chalay ge k Karachi Stock Exchange ka index 10% low ho giya hai, to kon baher say invest krnay aey ga bhai sb?
jub esee news ko tor mor k nashr krain gay k dosray din he log 30% pesa banks say nikal lain to bhai kiya bachay ga economy main?
jub aik blast ke news ko esay nashr kiya jaey ga jesay 9/11 repeat ho giya hai to kn Pakistan ko asha janay ga my dear. kon pakistaniyon ke izzat kray ga meray bhai?

jub media he govt k khilaf morality compaign chlaey ge to baher walay kon aitbar kray ga meray bhai?
kiya hmaray hamsaya country main koi corruption nahi hai? wahan koi zulm nahi ho rahey? wahan terrorism nahi hoti? inn sub k bawajood unhon nay world games host ke hain meray bhai sb....pta hai kiyon? only due to positive campaign of Media my dear.
jub terrorist ko hero bna k paish krain gay yeh media walay to ap kiya khiyal hai uknay hoslay buland nahi hon gay? logon main mayosee nahi phelay ge?
jub yahan k talk shows k host anchoring ke bjay acting krain gay or news esay paish kray gay k sunenay walay ka agla saans he na aey to ap kiya khiyal hai mashray main bigar nahi peda ho ga?
Media walay khud to Billions k tax defaultor hain or dosro ko tax pay krnay ka kehtay hain
ap mughay koi aik karama media ka bta dain jiss main iss nay pakistan ka image barhaya ho.....
abi recently daikhain,,, Pakistan Army nay world main gold medal jeeta... kisse TV channel ko itni fursat milee k vo ussay coverage day skain? ya us main participate krnay walay jawanoo k sath mill k koi live transmission he chla dain? no not at all....... but agr yehi Army ya Govt. k Khilaf koi khabr ho to...... bus phir media ke khabrain sunenay k laeq hoti hain my dear.
Media is also corrupt and we dont need such type of corrupt media to guide us about the corruption my dear.

and if you want to see more than visit my previous posts my dear.
and still if you dont satisfy I request moderators please arrange a poll here about Media, so that we want to know how many youth is in the favour of Current Media and how many is against it
It will be good for all of us.


"what or media did? after the breaking of news about Ajmal kasab from India, our channels also a false news about the residence of Ajmal Kasab with the city of Pakistan" Is it rationalism? bhai agr yeh media ke tarqi hai to i think so we are happy without the it...

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Dear, Its incompetency and inefficiency of govt that they cant even collect taxes from their fierce rivals.Geo managment must be behind bars on this tax evasion, if it is true.

Journalists are not our representatives,so we cant question their credibility and character but we can awaken our so-called leaders who are in deep slumber.

Lastly,it will be waste of space to debate on one channel's (Geo) agenda.

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@axim

while switching from one channel to anther i found a prog (BOLTA PAKISTAN) on AAJ TV here in sharjah, this is now on air... just tune the AAJ TV and listen their discussion... they are saying just "sara kasoor hakoomat ka hai" or ab uss banday ko invite kr k moshwaray mang rahay hain jiss ko musharraf door main khobb bura bhala kehtay thay , Dr. Salman Shah.....

and topic of prog is "Menhgai Dhamaka.....Jeena Mushkil Ho Geya!"

Is this is the sign of sensible media?

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Your 90% point of view is based on rumors, rest 10% I agree with your point of view. Only aaj TV you have n you are blamming whole media. So your objections come in that 10%.

Media these days never gave an impression that terrorists are hero. they always condemn. Fake views.

If Geo is not paying tax than I don't think that govt will spare them because geo is the one which is bycotted by PPP officials and party members. do you have any proof? Again Fake story.

Talk shows helps aspirant to increase his critical and analytical approach by listening different point of views on CA and PA topics and also help in essay to make outlines critically and analytically. This is a key to success in CSS.

none of the TV channel show that stock exchange had broken down 10% for 10 hours daily. Its fake again. If they show it for 2-3 hours in morning then all over the world is done so by tv channels and such news are helpful for business men.


My brother have you seen any pure ARMY personnel on TV ever who is not holding any civilian office?? DO you want to politicize ARMY also? Me not saying that. its reality. no army men is allowed on TV Sir for your kind information..!! Almost all TV channels showed the news that day that pak army men have won gold medals n even geo interviewed one of them and it was of hardly 1 min only thats it..!

About Ajmal kasab, okay it might not be fair. I don't know much about that story so i'll not comment. Yes sometimes media does bullshit things. that comes in your 10%.


About provincial ethnocentrism, its more the duty of govt than that of media. many times diff channels have conducted programs on it. It a failure of govt now.

Are you preparing for CSS? then plz try to write in english and try to develop you critical and analytical skills based on truth, logic and relevant reasoning.

God bless you.

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how to topple the present structure (usually refer to bangladesh model )
special emphasis on political uncertainity
selected targets (usually from present govt..)
airing breaking news strips (like zardari ne geo band karwa di.)
political tilt towards certain political parties (specially main opposition party in national assembly)..
airing of pictures of dead bodies (during bomb attacks)
yellow journalism (crime events,report of recent executive order)


above examples clearly depict the role of our media, which, from ethical point of view of journalism is objectionable.however there are other examples as well where media performed a professional job....

promote national solidarity (2005 earthquake)
against dictatorship (musharaf)
supported lawyers struggle (judicial crisis)
support for democratic forces (specially during 2008 elections)
against terrorism (swat ,south waziristan)
unearthed various corruption cases (railway,nlc,lng,loans)




by looking at positive and negative sides it can be safely said that media in pakistan is in its infancy and it will take some to grow mature.

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