Once there was a time when our society was divided between Left and Right. After the collapse of Soviet Union, the left view vanished and we have only rightist views prevailing in our society. But recently, we are witnessing another sharp division in society,i.e Religious hardliners and Liberals.
On the ons side are the people educated in Church based education system like Saint Anthony, Convents and their pakistani versions like Beacon and Grammar Schools and on the other hand we have people who have received their education from Deni Madrassas scattered all over the country.
Both the groups have their own views on life and religion and are quite opposite to each others. Both the groups have their representatives in every walk of life and at top positions and are not ready to accept the view points of others. This situation has created conflict in society that is leading us towards destruction and we are becoming weak with every passing day.
I wonder if we will ever come out of this situation or will kill ourselves in the process of this intolerance and hate to each other ? How can both the groups adopt a midway that lead the society towards social cooperation and human development ?

i agree with ur views n i witness extremeness in views of the both of the groups n there is lack of harmony in their versions n there is not devise to work as shock absorber to bring these two extremes together n work for the country n religion.

frist when general zia had the idea to use the religion as a political tool to protect the agenda of US in the region with full scale patronage of uncle sam. they got cheap manpower n squad of suicide bombers to achieve their goals without losing the men n resources in large quantity.

for this purpose, apart from the madrassah's aimed at providing real education, such madrassahs were opened which one brain-washed the stdents for jihad against soviet union. interestingly the course of madrassahs was devised in such a way, after completion of education there was no option for the student to live in society n earn livelihood except to go for jihad in afghanistan.

the muslims of sub-continent started khilafat movement to save the collapse of othoman empire but kamal attaturk managed to establish his secular govt based on his six principles of kamalism.

todays turky which is called as secular n un-islamic in view of religious bigots is the most 'ghairatmand' muslim country of the muslim word. it is such a country which never politicize the issues on the name of religion neither use the religion for worldly gains.

now, in recent age, US n her allies in company with front line fighter i.e. pakistan is failed to solve the mysterious puzzle for search the fictious characters like usama n mula umar. taliban are blessing in disguise for US n KUFFAR. how? they even patronize taliban to continue their activities. why? cz elimination of taliban means end of battle n end of battle is . US n her allies have to withdraw from the region otherwise china, russia, india n iran will raise voice against their deployment in the region. this is how they are successfully gaining the benefits of 'taliban, ttp' famously known as islam ke takeedar.

this is the war b'/w liberals n religeous hardliners cz liberals hve the smell of misuse of the name of jihad n islam while hardliners blindly below the mullah n they don't know the real face of their 'guide'. this is jihad fil fasad to kill children, in carry out suicide attack on own muslim brothers n still call it 'islam me jaez he'

i don't think that gap b/w liberals n hardliners will be bridged so easily there is need of lot of home work in building infrastructure which the govt never tried to. only a revolution is need of the hour.


at last joke of the century, how religious bigots make fool their supports.



Maulana Fazal Rahman v/s VOA


VOA: aap ne govt keu chori maulana shab?

Maulana: Gillani ke govt me islam ko bhot sakht khatra he


VOA: Maulana Shab aap ko 30 months ke baad pata chale jabkay aap iskay coalition partner thay

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Strike equilibrium point. Intersection at a mid point. Extremes are injurious to society, injurious to religion and injurious to humanity. Grand reconciliation is essential.

I second your views on the U.S deployment in this region ... But do you really think that a revolution is the need of the hour ? Wouldn't it be sufficient if the two extremes of our society get together on a single platform and discuss the issues pertaining to our national security and the reasons which are resulting in a degraded image of our religion on the rest of the world ?

brothers what is the right wing(possessing right view) and left wing(left view) of our society?

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These are political terms. People of left wing look for social justice through redistributive social and economic intervention by the state. Those of the Right wing protect private property and capitalism. Left-wing values include the belief in the power of human reason to achieve progress for the benefit of the human race. They love secularism. They give no value to religion. According to their point of view the government should exist separately from religious beliefs. On the other hand, the Right wing believes in the religious institutions as an instrument of social solidarity and also believes in the need for strong political leadership to minimize social and political divisions. We can say that Left and Right wings are some bit similar to liberal and conservative terms.

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@Sociologist PU Bhai

Yes there is sharp contrast of views between the liberals and religious schools graduates. I believe that the main reason on differing point of views is lack of communication between the two. I will present my own example as I have studied in christian missionary school and till masters was influenced by the western way of thinking mainly because I haven't heard other point of view. Whatever I have learnt about Islam or religion is by seeing things while wearing west's spectacles.
However, over time when I met with the graduates from deeni madrassas and their aalims, then I came to know about their viewpoint.

It is true that deeni madrassa's graduates are not much aware about the international relations, politics or modern sciences, but same applies to the graduates of western system of education, about Islam. This contrast in views is shown in every walk of life and conflict is certain between the two.

I think there are two easy solutions, if one really wants to resolve this:

1. Increase communication between the two by student exchange programs of short duration.

2. Add subjects of science and international relations (any other subject as one can chose) in madrassas syllabus and add Quran (short sura's with explanation), Hadis and fiqh in western styled education institutions.

I am sure in the current situation none of the side is willing to do that. However, may be in future it becomes possible.

Other possibility is establishment of uniform system of education throughout the country. Although, it is impossible to have complete consensus on issues, but however, the degree of difference in point of views will certainly be reduced if both sides have similar backgrounds in education.

@ newstudent

Sir your suggestions are excellent but the problem is that the owners of private elite schools are very powerful and they have their men in the corridors of power. Whenever, the government tries to introduce uniform system of education, this mafia sabotage it as their institutions will lose the prestige attached with them if they offer the same syllabus like other school.(and will lose revenue as well) They will not even allow the mixing of their student with the students of religious institution otherwise this practice can bring much needed harmony in our society.

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the amalgamation of these two opposite extremes is seemingly very difficult but not impossible. actually there is need of building infrastructure and alot of home work. our govt. never bothered to improve the moral and social life of the masses. for instance, our liberal class attend dance parties where liquor is also served whereas the extremist class hve their own un-Islamic amusement the most prominent is sodomy as blamed by people.

so, there was need of home work, to take such steps which could inculcate moral values in people. how a govt. teacher can bring a change in our society who are selected through system of reference n corruption. how you expect that our media will bring a social change which is blamed for projecting western agenda.

in our country we stand for blasphemy law but never bothered to spend our lives according to the teachings of the Holy Prophet PBUH. we become are brain-washed by the charismatic speeches of so-called religious leaders who stand for their political gains.

China is a communist country but they banned pornographic material in their country successfully n when google despite the instructions of their govt didn't remove the objectionable features from search results then the China govt also banned google from their country n chinese are now using baidu search engine.

suggestions:


1. our govt. should ban the porn websites immediately to ensure moral life in the citizens who stand for islamic way of life openly n secretly disobey the teachings of islam.

2. reforms in madrassah system to introduce the modern education as well with traditional teachings.

3. there should be a subject of international and contemporary relations to the students of madrassah to get awareness from the outer world and world politics. they will be aware of the importance of diplomatic relations of the outer world n their way of life.

4. class distinction is another imp factor for creation of two extremes in our society. there should be social justice n the govt should introduce such reforms which remove economic disparity in the country.

5. students of english educational system shud be given complete education abt the awareness of islam n all the important issues of contemporary islamic world.

6. there should be justice n rule of law in the country. if every one is accountable to the law of the land n there will be justice in the country then there will be no clash of these two extremes. its all due to the lack of trust on justice system of our country n people oppose each other due to the flaws in our judicial system n law.

7. there should be ban on religious parties in the country who use religion for their political gains n polish their politics by blowing sectarianism in the country. these political parties stands for islam in the country, isn't it already constitutionally declared islamic republic?

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@Sociologist PU

I know that private schools owners are not willing and I also assure you neither of the side is willing to do so. What we need is political will and I am also sure that we also lack this quality. This is why I see this as a rare possibility of future.

The slogan of uniform system of education is however, politically very appealing and I do expect that this system has more probability to be implemented than the above one.