Rishwat lena apne khandan ko indirectly qatal karne ke barabar hai,, rishwat lene se samaj main burai phelti hai aur phir wohi burai apne bachon main bhi sarayat kar jaati hai aur phir wohi bache apne hee gale par jaate hain , just think about it . zindagi choti guzaro yaa lambi, mahal main guzaro yaa road pe, izzat se guzaro yaa be izzat, ba usul guzaro yaa be usul, amiri main guzaro yaa faqon main, jahalat main guzaro yaa shaoor main, tamam khuwahishat puri hon yaa kuch hon yaa koi aik bhi na ho, aakhir kaar zindagi kaa anjam wohi qabar kaa garha aur wohi Allah ke hazur paishi hai .

Govt jobs join kernay se pehlay hi pata hota hai keh kya milna hai. Koi bhi bay khabri main nahi mara jata. Itni complains kernay se behtar hai keh is rastay jao hi nahi. Log isay Prestigious Job samajh ke is ke peechay jatay hain. Jab log yeh farz kerna chora dain gay keh sirf aik CSS ker ke hi prestigious job milti hai, un ki mushkil kafi hud tak kum ho jaye gee.

Forum ke hi aik member ki misal deti hoon jisay main ne rok diya tha keh kabhi CSS na kerna. Main ne usay us ki family aur us ka sara system jannay ke baad yeh mashwara diya tha aur us ne us pe amal kiya. Us ne usi field main mehnat ki jis main wo pehlay tha aur aaj wo pursukoon hai aur us ki life 2010 ki nisbat bohat behtar hai aur Inshallah chund maah baad wo lacs main earn kernay lagay ga. Agar wo bhi is so called prestigious job ke peechay bhaagta to wo bhi aaj yehi shikayatain ker raha hota. 2 hi rastay hain. Isi job main rehtay huay aajzi aur shukar guzari apna lo ya phir rasta badal lo. Dunya main bohat se kaam hain kernay ko.

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The Me you have always known, the Me that's a stranger still.

i fully agree with you............koi bhi be khabri main nahi mara jata...........bohat sa respectable occupation ha...............theek ha........but is system ko theek ku na kya jae..........woh system jo hamara mulk ko chala raha ha.........kya ya system hamara mulk ko tabhi ki tarf nahi la kar ga raha?..........

@ sir kashif

ya injam kabar he ha ...........per is zindagi ka hisab bhi dena ha ........aur zindagi ALLAh ki nemat ha.............lakin jab asish nahi milla ge sakoon nahi ho ga tu insan kasa is nemat sa fida uttha saka ga?.........kya us ka bhatkna ka andesha zayada nahi ho ga...........aur ho sakta woh us bhatkna main Islam sa kharig ho gae.....

I am telling you truth, believe me, hamare ghar pe aik sarkari chokidar hai jo ke qaribi gaun main rehta hai, us ki 2 shaadian aur 18 bache hain (aik bivi se maximum 17 bache ho sakte hain us ke baad nikah baqi nahin rehta, limit puri kar ke dusri shaadi kar li us ne ).... us ke bete mehnat karte hain,, school nahin jaate, laikin us ki tamam aulad baa akhlaq aur baa kirdar hai aur pura khandan shahana nahin magar khush zindagi guzar raha hai... sab kuch apne ooper hota hai, jo guzara karna chahe woh kisi bhi halat main guzara kar leta hai.

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The precondition for existence of a higher humanity is not the state, but the nation possessing the necessary ability.

I second the opinion. It is confirmed before joining that one will get how much, so useless to say that one is taken aback by the amount of salary received. However, I think the situation is not so bad in public sector. I understand that during initial period the salary is low however after some years it becomes handsome.

I am earning a little more than half a lac a month but still when I see the horrors of private sector, I pray that I get a permanent job. Who knows, today I am earning in lacs in private sector, but tomorrow would be earning zero. Who knows when lay offs are over the head. Believe me, being unemployed is the biggest curse, especially for the people from lower middle class. Even earning in lacs is not the guarantee of improving life standard and mobility within the class as there do come intermittent periods of unemployment in one's life where he has to use whatever was saved.

So, I think when people join they should think about it whether they prefer a little salary during initial years with permanent job or they want huge salary with no surety of tomorrow's earning.

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"If you really want to achieve something the whole universe conspires for you to get your dream realized."

respected sir

ap ka ghar ka chukidar ko tu sarkari tankha milti ha.........3000 above ho ge.....i think..........aur woh sakoon ki zindagi guzar raha ha......
mari maid jo mera ghar kam karti ha us ko main 1700 pay karti hoo aur woh us main par sakoon zindagi guzar rahi ha.........mujh sa kam az kam sakoon ki nend suti ho ge..............

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mera aur us ka koi comparison nahi ha.............mujha mera parents na ghalti sa education da de ha.........jis sa mujh main kuch sufistication aur awarness ae gae ha..........mera kuch living standard ban gaya ha.....aur mujh main kuch aga barhna ki arzoo peda ho gae ha...........aur us ka khamyaza main bhogat rahi ho.......

i think woh govt officer bhi usi education ka kafara ada karta ha...........

regards

I strongly disagree. Education ka living standard se koi taluq nahi hota. Taleem shaoor deti hai, tafreeq peda nahi kerti. Aur agar kerti hai, to phir taleem ne us shakhs ka kuch sanwara nahi, balkay bigar diya hai. System se pehlay, is farq ko khatam kernay ki zaurat hai.

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The Me you have always known, the Me that's a stranger still.

uncertanity in private sector and become unemploy is a great threat due to which people prefer to join govt job........otherwise belive me due to govt policies no 1 like to become part of govt and this corrupt system..............

main tafreeq ki bat nahi kar rahi balka awerness ki bat kar rahi ho............let me give u example..........
mari maid ko saf aur gandagi sa koi sarokar nahi......but mujha ha.......mera lya safi nesf aeman ha.......

woh bemari main ghar ka totkaoon sa kam chala lati ha but main dr ka pass jana pasand karti ho...........ku ka mujha lagta ha ka ghar ka totkaon sa mari bemari mazeed barh sakti ha.....

baz isi kism ki dosra demagh ka kera ha jis na mera ghar ka budget rise kya huwa ha......

dear aisi education kaa kia faaida jo ke bande ko shaoor dene aur zindagi kaa maqsad samjhane ke bajaye asaish pasand bana de.. aik educated banda ba shaoor hona chahiye jo ke tamam samaj ko ba shaoor aur organized banaye... agar educated bande apni life ko pur asaish banane ke liye rishwat jaise shortcut lene ke bajaye samaj ko shaoor den to aik ba shaoor samaj aik behtar economy bana sakta hai aur ultimately aik long term problem hal ho sakta hai .

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The precondition for existence of a higher humanity is not the state, but the nation possessing the necessary ability.

The statement, 'I want to join civil services to serve my country' ' I want to improve system' 'I want to help out my dear countrymen' etc, these are some of the words on the lips of many aspirants and remain there for some good months thn all fades away. These words are very good for talks and discussions, but in reality this is not the thing. We all are linked to many others, our families, friends, colleagues, batchmates etc etc and by will or by compulsion do many things which do not fully fall in the ambit of honesty.

No doubt, many good officers are there in civil services and many join each year, but after spending sometime, majority of them are bent in a way that they dont realize what is right and what is wrong, because everything becomes right either on the name of illness /hunger of children, orders of wife/family or requests/threats of friends or on the name of status..or it become justified on the simple thing of ,greater/wider national interests .. Though a substantial part of bureaucracy comes from middle class, yet a good number of feudals also enters in it; for power, privileges, keeping/saving the interests of their families in power houses etc.

And the remaining lot, who still tries to keep up, are idiots and stubborn people and some of them use to have a level of contentment in their minds, this word is having very wide spread meanings and is greater thn mere satisfaction. Contentment is a God gifted thing and its boundaries also shrinks and expands..... Such people dont join power blocks and usually remain solitary and sometime dont get good postings, and remain at less lucrative /bad posts. They even dont marry with well off/rice/manipulative/feudal families and try to get a spouse (husband or wife), who could often be neglected by the society due to any reason, they try to give name and respect to that person by accepting him/her.

One should be mindful of the pros and cons of the civil services, its occupational groups are very good in some manners and very bad in some other manners. Pay/monetary/financial rewards are the driving force for any body, and the same is the case with the civil services. Some occupational groups compensate money with provision of pricks/fringe benefits etc. But money always remain an issue and a civil servant often remain in a fix to make his both ends meet, however, if his/her family is supportive, his /her spouse is an earning hand or he/she tries to do some part time job, thn he/she can easily survive, even if these things are not there, one can try to survive with limiting ones expenditures, but honestly, this is very pinching thing and extremely difficult and, time and again, one kills ones ego/individuality/identity ...... a sad thing indeed. Another survival factor is being industrious and pro-activeness. One can get good reputation at the dint of hard work, intellect and diligence..... Another thing, after getting some privileged job, one can easily get distant relatives at his/her periphery who tries to support him/her in any manner, off course having their own axes to grind

To tell you about a good friend, who is in one of the elite service, he got that by virtue of hard work and HIS blessing and he put in extra efforts having simple formula of serving the nation in befitting manners, it has paid to him so much so that he, within very less time in service, has secured very good reputation and he is considered as one of the best officer in his rank having more thn 150 officers. He also got one of the most important/lucrative posting of his rank and got more pricks and privileges. A God fearing, dead honest, damn hard worker (often works for very long hours) etc.... His distant relatives are near to him, and he got to know their agenda so he distanced himself and dont do their work , he is God fearing and tries to follow the principle of justice, public service and fairplay in actual manners. But, as per his own words, he is not fully honest, he has not done any corruption of any type, but he told that he sometime abused his pricks/power/authority! and he told that he did that not for taking any benefit, but for helping others and in 95 % instances that abuse of power was in fact to help out some distressed person. But even in this case, we can see that he abused his power i.e. 5% for some ulterior /undefined motives, may be for his own interests...one can infer from this example that one should not have a rosy rosy, all set picture in ones mind while joining civil services and there is nothing 100% honesty in it.... ..

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