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Lets Raise Voice for Balucistan
The largest province of Pakistan is under clouds of insurgency with the situation turning from worse in to worst with every passing day. The writ of state in the province is conspicuous by its absence.Though the incumbent Govt had announced Aghaz-e-Haqooq Baluchistan Package n promised to to redress the Grievences of our Baluch brethren but the issue now seems to have gone off from Islamabad's radar.It seems that security establishment has been again given the exclusive charge to handle Baluchistan Problem.But if some guidance can be taken from history , such voices cant be muted with gun.
I request all the respected members to raise their voice by writing letters to papers , if possible the university students can arrange rally's and protests demanding the Govt to take immediate steps to allay the grievances of Baluchs, besides showing solidarity with them. |
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dear sister, I know well about the allocation of previous candidates in 5000 job of Aghaz e haqooq e balochistan.
Youn kahen na k ministors ka pait bharne kleay again stand len. Very sorry dear, pehle apnay ministors k against stand len, un k pait ka jahanum bharne kleay ghareeb k haqooq ki pamali ho rahi hai, uska hisab len, phir main bhi ap k sath hoon. Maazrat k saath lehja talkh hai, lekin ye lehja aisay he nai hai, 3.7 CGPA lene k bawajood 3 years se berozgar hoon.
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the problem needs to be addressed by adopting a multiprong strategy ranging from use of force to peaceful negotiations and economic and educational uplift.unfortunately the emphasis at the moment is more on the former than the later.
dipolmacy is a vital tool in solving this problem as we know that the roots of this problem may be within but the fueling is done from afghanistan.afghanistan has given up brahamdagh bugti which marks the improving relations between PAK and afghanistan and hence therefore a slight decrease in the insurgency has been witnessed. the elected representatives of balochistan are not even a bit interested in solving the problems of their people.hue and cry from their side is always for the allocation of resources to balochistan so that they can get their commission out of it. we need to go out of the way in helping balochiz.they have been deprived of their rights for the last 6 decades.irrespective of whose fault it is federation and provincial representatives have to put back their personal interests in solving out the matter. security establishment should coordinate with elected people instead of making their moves independently in order to establish a more better solution of the issue.
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1-Punjab is the largest and comparatively developed province of the country.Small provinces have grievances against Punjab.Since the partly currently holding charge of the province proclaim itself to be the National Party , should show goodwill gesture and take certain steps to dispel the feelings of animosity. Punjab being ahead of all the provinces in education , should offer scholarships to Baluchs in its vocational institutions, Colleges and Universities. 2-The Bigwigs of federal Govt should make the People of Baluchistan believe that they the Govt realise their adversities and there must be at least some semblance of efforts to corroborate this claim.PM and President must pay frequent visits to breadth of the Baluchistan , meet with common people and as much as possible listen the problems of common man.There must be one visit a month atleast . 3-The legitimate political demands by Baluch leadership should be accepted and all the dissidents must be invited on negotiation table.A general amensty must be declared for all the political activists be decalred. 4-Security apparatus must stop its illegal means of quelling the insurgency , extrajudicial killings and detention of people. The situation demands immediate actions ,since complacency has no room and may prove fatal for survival of the state.Those who contend that Baluch Insurgency have been fuled by foreign hands and vested interest groups so there is need to pay in the same coin, through use of force are mistaken.Foreign involvement may not be denied , but no one can meddle in your matters untill and unless you yourself accord opportunity.
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I agree with the views of members. However, I will add further. There is an immediate need of formulating a transformative and participatory strategy for the people of Balochistan. By saying Transformative, I am describing one of the important flaw in the Aghaz-e-Haqooq-e-Balochistan Package. First of all, there is a need to define what is it? To me the Central Government wanted to launch something like “Social Protection” for the deprived and discriminated Baloch people. Whereas, if it is taken as a measure of “Social Protection” then it is once again a failed step forward by the Government as no one can guaranteed whether this will bring any transformative development change for the people or not. It is not out of the place to mention that this Package has no future. In addition to this, from its formulation to the implementation the major stakeholder i.e. People of Balochistan themselves have not so far been taken into confidence. So it did not depict any participatory approach by the government. It is another master piece of Top-Down Political-Bureaucratic policy process. This is just one example, whereas many more are there.
I would like to extend the proposal No. 1 given by “Respected Member Saleeqa Batool, she has co-related the importance of Punjab with the vocational training of Youth. According to the latest statistics, given in the Pakistan Labour Force Survey 2009-10, published in January, 2011 by FBS (Federal Bureau of Statistics), the youth population of Balochistan falling between the age of 10-14 years is 16.71% of the total population including the urban and rural areas. This is the highest percentage of youth in any other province of Pakistan, which is, Khyber Pakhtunkhwa 14.07, Sindh 13.90 and Punjab 12.62 percentage points. The Government of Pakistan should forecast the future. In 2004, according to UNDP, more than 63% of the population fall under the age of 25 years means the young youth, the figure may be nearly 65 to 67% by now. Just imagine when in coming years, the population is crowded with the youth, the issue of unemployement will also be on its peak and it will result in chronic poverty in general and instill deprivation particular in Balochistan. The focus of my point is the youth of Balochistan. If one has to save Balochistan, he must have to save youth of Balochistan. Youth means the children. A child has a fear of his parents which is inculcated by them through their child-hood affection and hard work but if this affection proves inefficient then the child may not obey or respect the parents when he grow up. Similar, is the case of State relation with its subjects, particularly in terms of deprived youth (people ) of Balochistan. This was just one of the important factor which have been described in brief. Whereas, the usage of natural resources and issues with the weak social capital of people is also among the important issues which are waiting. Whereas, what we are doing…………..action speaks louder than words. |
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human right commission report, published today, revealed that control of Balochistan was in the hand of security apparatus.it is despicable...the only reason of baloch insurgency.we did not get independence fron great Britain to make roads or other developmental projects.All the leaders of subcontinent wether M.A jinnah ,Ghandhi or Ghaffar khan,they all wanted control over their resources.As our railroads,highways,revenue system,police and even Act of 1935 were given by G.Britain.
Balochs do not need charity like packages and dole out.they want full control over their resources.As they have sufficient resources to give Roti Kapra aor Makan to their people |
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@Saleeqa Batool
Respected fellow member,
not one,out of all,points that you presented are questionable,disputed or are of the nature on which a disagreement should exist. use of force does not imply the way our security and intelligence agencies are operating in balochistan at the moment.use of force alone is not the solution of the problem. a lot of schemes can be formulated in order to address the grievances of the people of balochistan but the main hurdle in the way is the lack of will among our political leaders. the condition in balochistan as observed by me demands implementation of compenstaion plans on emergency basis before a separate ideology starts rooting in balochistan.(i can see all the ingredients of having one) we should not be in denial of the foreign intervention in balochistan.yes,the problem lies mainly within and the foreign intervention is just an exploitation of the problems that were allowed by us to take root but at the same time some elements in balochistan have now bypassed the stage where negotiation could be done with them.there is a section in balochistan which now openly denies submission to constitution of PAK and is not ready to talk on anything less than independence.once a baloch leader was given the option of provincial autonomy and he rejected by saying that they dont want anything less than independence. to conclude if we are to come up with the solution of the problem then our means would be other than the use of force as being used now as the primary tool instead we should restrict this option to a secondary one and the negative role of our intelligence agencies should be checked if we are to save the ISLAMIC REPUBLIC OF PAKISTAN. A question.should we expect from our political leaders a solution of this problem?if not then who is going to be the saviour? and yes i agree that we should all raise our voices in our capacities against the injustice that is being done to the balochiz.a very noble cause indeed.
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To respected Fellow MJ Khan
No public movement can get currency with out public support.So if people are made believe that Govt is serious in resolving their problems, the seaparists would have to revisit their strategy. As for as political will of incumbent Govt is concerned, i believe one thing. In spite of all of its shortcomings on governance side , No one other than current regime can solve political problem of such nature and if any thing that can be placed on credit side of them is their achievements on political fronts.However, to my perception, Zardari's thrust to remain in power prevent him to confront the Security establishment and he succumb before their will.So if GHQ desires to take the issue of Baluchistan with in its own domain exclusively , zardari and Company will not object. One thing is clear.. Baluchistan is slipping away from centre and it is the time when only political solution is possible.I have learnt from some freinds that people other than Baluchs can not move freely in Baluchistan.The writ of state is gradually fading away. Media is playing very negative role by not highlighting the issue as it should be.Our anchors are busy in mud-slinging and discussing hot political issues .Only Dawn Newspaper has spotlighted Baluchistan Crises through editorials.If Media , especially leading channels , spare time and arrange serious discourse over the issue , at least General Public will realise its gravity and then Govt will be forced to come out of complacency.
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Respected Fellow Saleeqa Batool
dialogue has its own wonders.dialogue the undisputed. with all the strife and discord of the world vested in me by Eris for the PPPz onslaught for the last three years i still believe that your belief in them as a ray of hope for solving out the matter is not without substance simply because of the reason that they are the only party present in all the provinces of PAK.baray mian's goodwill should also not be put to the backyard in this regard as he is somewhat a trusted figure near some of the balochiz.the desired result can only be obtained by a collective effort of different actors and sectors having an effecting power with respect to this issue. about the free movement of people belonging to other provinces especially the onez belonging to the province of takht a lahore,as are usually referred,is something i dont feel comfartable to throw light on as it fuels a sense of negativity...i hope you understand.(though i have a lot to share)
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Any package like "Aaghaz-e-huqooq Balochistan" can not resolve the problems. There is no rule of law in Balochistan with compare to other provinces as other province too suffering from this corrupt and illegal attitude but in Balochistan situation is worse. Government is trying to crush the liberation forces, personally, I agree with government to crush all criminal elements from all over the country but to crush political activists is a condemnable act of government. Almost every day I read news from Balochistan about finding of dead bodies of Baloch Nationalist activists. Where is government? where is FC? and where are our intelligence organizations? Baloch nationalist puts allegations on Agencies that they kidnapped Baloch workers and afterwards killed them. Now terrorists of banned baloch organizations also killing poor Punjabi, Pukhtoon and urdu speaker settlers. Every where there is a blood shed of poor Pakistani and what is government doing? They are just wasting their time in useless packages instead of taking collective and effective steps to curtail down the insurgency and implementing the rule of law in the province.
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