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Lolz bahi sahb ap ya BBC r Guardian ki parhi hoi stories kahin aur quote krain . for your kind information I am not a pro-democracy person so don't tell me these so called civil rights and freedom type myths which are only bestowed upon mighty and powerful people. the common people don't have anything to do with these things. and yes! you are right , I rebelled , I always rebelled against those rules which are only implicated to lay men and the status quo is always exempted from those rules. and for Nato thing , its my humble request to read some good stuff and you will better know where it intervened and for whom Nato works??
To be honest I never read Guardian, as for BBC, My answer is no. Call for change stands for change that is too for better. Isnt what you believe and say is antithesis to what you stand for. Your suggestion I appreciate and will surely go for some good stuff.
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To be honest I never read Guardian, as for BBC, My answer is no. Call for change stands for change that is too for better. Isnt what you believe and say is antithesis to what you stand for. Your suggestion I appreciate and will surely go for some good stuff.
Don't get personal . If you don't have anything constructive and related to the topic it is better to end our discussion here.most of the people misunderstood Call for Change , one day when you will understand and listen to me you will come to know what I mean and lastly, no offenses
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sorry to say, but it is a reality that he, himself became a monster, for his own people. Neverthless, his stubbornness, and blinding ego let him down. if he had learnt a lesson from his neighboring countries(Tunisia, and Egypt), his fate would not have ended like that(Allah knows better, we only can make assumptions). He fought for his personal glory, not for libyan nation. Not to forget his speech, when he threatened whole libyan nation for dire consequences of then going protests.






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Though he has been killed but what has been done with his dead body is really inhumane for Islamic world mostly and others too.




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.The following links shows west dependence on libiya oil .west also do not want any share of oil in its new democratic colony and china is using this oil .their aim is to bloc china supply of oil

Libyan oil: Relying on Libya | The Economist







These following links also have detail explanation of libiya oil resevrs and west share in the the import of its oil and they have found a lame excuse ke qaddafi had been killing innocent people --- and inkey air crafts ne innicent ko to kill kiya he nae kisis be islami mulk me ...

Libya: Strategic Saharan Gateway to Central Africa
Libya has borders with several countries which are within France's sphere of influence, including Algeria, Tunisia, Niger and Chad. Chad is potentially an oil rich economy. ExxonMobil and Chevron have interests in Southern Chad including a pipeline project. Southern Chad is a gateway into the Darfur region of Sudan, which is also strategic in view of its oil wealth. China has oil interests in both Chad and Sudan. The China National Petroleum Corp (CNPC) signed a farreaching agreement with the Chad government in 2007. Niger is strategic to the United States in view of its extensive reserves of uranium. At present, France dominates the uranium industry in Niger through the French nuclear conglomerate Areva, formerly known as Cogema. China also has a stake in Niger's uranium industry. More generally, the Southern border of Libya is strategic for the United States in its quest to extend its sphere of influence in Francophone Africa, a vast territory extending from North Africa to Central and Western Africa. Historically this region was part of France and Belgium's colonial empires, the borders of which were established at the Berlin Conference of 1884



With regard to Tunisia, Morocco and Algeria, Washington's design is to weaken the political links of these countries to France and push for the installation of new political regimes which have a close rapport with the US. This weakening of France is part of a US imperial design. It is a historical process which goes back to the wars in Indochina. US-NATO intervention leading to the eventual formation of a US puppet regime is also intent upon excluding China from the region and edging out China's National Petroleum Corp (CNPC). The Anglo-American oil giants including British Petroleum which signed an exploration contract in 2007 with the Ghadaffi government are among the potential "beneficiaries" of the proposed US-NATO military operation.More generally, what is at stake is the redrawing of the map of Africa, a process of neo-colonial redivision, the scrapping of the demarcations of the 1884 Berlin Conference, the conquest of Africa by the United States in alliance with Britain, in a US-NATO led operation.


An otherattack on Islam, as a mean to open the way to Christianity.Officials now give their reasons for the U.S. to enter a Libya fight.Barack Obama said Gaddafi was suppressing his people and that “left unchecked, we have every reason to believe that Gaddhafi would commit atrocities against his people. Many thousands could die. A humanitarian crisis would ensue. The entire region could be destabilized, endangering many of our allies and partners. The calls of the Libyan people for help would go unanswered. The democratic values that we stand for would be overrun. Moreover, the words of the international community would be rendered hollow.” r reason named is religion and U.S. intervention is denounced as an

I have shared this link bcoz it has videos that are not on you tube and that very well clarifiying the motives of obama and its followers

U.S. Entered Libya Fight. Now What? « annapoludenko
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i will call him a shaheed/martyr instead of halak/dead and he presented us the practical demonstration of tipu sultan's words sher ik aik din ki zindagi geedar ki so sala zindagi se behtar hai.

Ps i know he was a dictator and cruel bla bla etc in the past but right now he was fighting against nato backed rebels. Had the rebels been not backed by us and french led nato forces i would have been supporting the rebels.
colonel gaddafi was a great rather greatest arab ruler, he was extreme opponent of america and his other western allies. In an arab league summit he openly criticized shah abdullah on his pro american policies. He was lion of africa, arabs and muslim umma as well. He is shaheed who never surrendered before nato backed cowards. I will never forget u great gaddafi. You are martyred and martyred never die. You are alive. I present u salute on the behalf of the poor people of pakistan. Long live gaddafi, long live pakistan
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itbi buri mout ....that's da fate ov every dictator !!
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what goes around, eventually comes around...none the less big lesson for the Islamic leadership (if they choose to get 1 :P)...
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