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"MAY BY LAW ADMIT INTO THE FEDERATION NEW STATES OR AREAS"
New States does not necessarily mean conquered territories , a new state can be formed of an existing state as well, I think . But you are rite, any such amendment which alters the area of a province cannot be made unless the affected province's assembly approves it with two thirds absolute vote
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New States does not necessarily mean conquered territories , a new state can be formed of an existing state as well, I think
If you read in context, it obviously LITERALLY means NEW areas and not currently existing areas of an already existing province, because the word "ADMIT" is used, and admit, according to the standard dictionary means "to allow to enter" .. So obviously you cant allow something to enter which has already entered and also if read together with 239(4) it even clears it more.. but I think we should consult some constitutional law expert, If someone can recommend one then please do so

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If you read in context, it obviously LITERALLY means NEW areas and not currently existing areas of an already existing province, because the word "ADMIT" is used, and admit, according to the standard dictionary means "to allow to enter" .. So obviously you cant allow something to enter which has already entered and also if read together with 239(4) it even clears it more.. but I think we should consult some constitutional law expert, If someone can recommend one then please do so

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Sieg Heil ,, See it mentions "areas" as well as "states", now what is "state", state is something people want to make, for example seraiki people want to make their state (province) from an existing state (Punjab Province), the new state will be incorporated into the federation (equivalent to "Admit"), so the whole thing is in this word "state" (Reich )
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Default making of new provinces

the provines should be made on administrative basis but not at this time, the election year because the parties are preferring theri vote bank and not the interests of the people.
the provinces are need of the day because urban areas of the provinces are not getting their due rights and even natives of some areas have not seen their ministers and cheif minister in their entire tenure, so the provinces must be on administrative and after the tenure of this government.
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should Pakistan be divided into new provinces within the existing provinces?

Making of new provinces is a solution or just a political game of politicians.

By the making of new provinces there will be new assemblies, more CMs more ministers. and these minister will be the same which are currently in the assemblies.
by making new assemblies there will be a huge expenditure on these assemblies, huge expenditures on the new ministries. National wealth will be ruined on these assemblies.

Issues will be the same and result will be Zero/Zero

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I appreciate this decision and welcome it. . .albeit no doubt it's nothing more than filthy politics or simply one can say it is happening just to break down vote bank of PML-N. But on other hand it will be much better for siraiki's at least they will be getting their proper rights and maximum immunity. I've been to many cities of south punjab and those people really want to get rid of these Sharif Brother's. Because they think 2/3rd of the budget is being invested in lahore and raiwind and only 3 part on other areas. Although it's true up to some extent but i don't agree with their perception because they've done alot in pujab. Well whatever the scenario is there should be an other province with their own administration so that they could get that which belongs to them. Afterwards what ever will happen they themselves will be responsible for that and at least they will not blame sharif brothers. Pakistan Zindabad
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Default In the Cavour of new Province

i my view people of Hazara really require Province due to some problem.
1) can any one tell me how many Govt. Engineer University are in Hazara ?
2) how many jobs are provide to the people of Hazara during last 4 years ?
people of hazara are neglect just because of they are living in Hazara and demanding for new Province. Hazara People are neglect from both side from provisional goverment and federal government also.

but my brothers says that more province more CM and more corruption i just want to say its correct but management is also easy by doing so,
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If it is so, on the same way balochistan also be divided into 7 8 provinces.
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If it is so, on the same way balochistan also be divided into 7 8 provinces.
If the people of Balochistan wish so, then it should be divided.
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I think it is just a political maneuver by the ruling party PPP to score some political score at the cost of PML-N and the rest. They are just playing with the sentiments of the people from different geographical localities, who seriously considers that they are been under-represented at the provincial and federal level and as a result they are under developed.

However, given the entire motive of the ruling coalition to use this issue in their favor and to create dissension and divisions, it will only create trouble for the federation of Pakistan. Which is already in a mess of ethnic divisions, sectarian violence, and racial and linguistic discriminations. Further demarcation of people on such lines will cause more intolerance, more bloodshed and may lead to a chaotic and anarchic situation specially keeping in view the already troubled places such as Karachi, entire Balochistan and Hazara region of K.P
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We need to stress why does parliment form commissions for dividing rather than uniting ? One obviour answer to this questions is political manoeuvring behind this fuss of new provinces.
Second thing, apart from many other discussed, is to analyse this scheme in light of solution of the problems Pakistan has been facing for many years. Large provinces are not a problem; problem is large scale mismanagement and rampant corruption form top to bottom in all government departments.
Third thing to analyse is to see who is likley to gian from the proposed division of the provinces or from the formation of new provinces at this particular juncture when elections are coming ?
A sort of domestic political crisis is likely to errupt in the wake of this 'provincial bargaining' which is likely to divert attentions of the public form other vital issues such as 'new deal' between Pakistan and USA and its both short and long term consequences for Pakistan.
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