Dear friends all of you have raised points which make sense, But to observe this scenario and to ponder on it in a strategic way, that what will be the effects on either Pakistan or India after America leaves afghanistan.
For this we need to observe very keenly from 9/11 after wards. As you know America and many other supper powers have think tanks who are liable to make such strategic plans which will be fruitful for its country in future.
Super powers are supper powers due to their resources, growing economies, Technological advancements and strong armed forces, but to maintain their growth they need a continous supply of resources like (Oil). As we know 20th century by the race for Acquiring Oil resources, the think tanks were aware of the fact that a time will come the world will be scarce in Oil Supply. For this simple reason America has stored all its Oil reserves and is fulfilling its demands from other countries by Imports.
War is all about getting each others resources, and thats all. Or we can say world is a hard place to live in, there is no room for weak. Strongest is the mightest.
From the Day Russia wanted to conquer Afghanistan to get hold of the Warm waters, America has started implimenting its strategies its nefarious conspiricies against Russia to stop it from getting resourse oppertunity, and it succeeded. America announced its self as the next super power and with it started making more evil plans to get hold of other weak nation resources as we know power increases lust for power.
Talking about Afghanistan, many of my friends must be aware of the scandles which arose after 9/11 incident. It was known from various authentic sources that Osama bin Ladin was American trained, its another story either he turned againts America later on as we see or not, the point is what if it was a plan all long of America to get an excuse to place its feet on Asia,central Asia and Middle eastern lands and then start implimenting its nefarious strategies from here. It sounds pretty logical to me and it is so.
When Afghanistan was sent to stone age next in the line was Iraq.
Now, one must think what was the reason? America came to Afghanistan
1) America wanted to engage its self in the repective area's politics, form its strong holds their and start extending its roots all over the sub-continent, which could not be possible sitting far behind the Atlantic ocean.
2) Secondly, Afghanistan produces an ample amount of tobacco, opium and other related products. Internationl community has a greater demant for it, its a large industry and a huge lobby is working for it. America has cash this oppertunity what you can call it as resouse of afghanistan.
As i said earlier this is the WAR of resources and Power, America as the super power will do everything to insure the power stays in its hands. Lets analyse the scenerio a bit. China is the next strong contender for the throne of super power and Pakistan is its Strong ally. Russia on the other hand has no strong friendly relations with america. Pakistan and america are both aware of each others double gaming policy, the trust building is futile.
Here our question arises what will be the effect of America leaving Afghanistan on India. America in the above scenario wanted India and may be still wants it to be its watch dog in the area and work in the direction of fulfilling its interest.
Therefore, for the past many years America and India are working as one to Eliminate all their enemies in the sub-continent with there evil strategies. India has been taking full advantage of the situation for the past many years from america as playing the role of its pet dog, it has struck many deals with america and have been tried to cash its self in every possible manner. Now as america is planning to evacuate Afghanistan in full true or false but if its true america has a lesser need for india and the mayhem India is try to create in Baluchistan will be no longer effective after america out of afghanistan.
America being the only ally of india once out from Afghanistan, is surrounded by not so friendly friends (china, Pakistan), the result, india will be facing many problems as long as it manages to built good relations with Pakistan. As said before America's only friend is its own Interests thats all.

I haven given you example of us and its friends which were supporting US and in place of US you are keeping India and saying US to Support her so bro listen US has understood that no one can handle Taliban because they do not care of their lives so she is embrangling India in the situation and India in the greed of its role in Afghanistan perplexing in a big trouble which she own do not know.

Iran`s interest : Iran wan to complete its nuclear program and nothing and due to presence of US and NATO in Afghanistan she is not in the situation of taking a big step and she is also not being able to create its hegemony on Arab countries as well so Iran want withdrawal of NATO from Afghanistan as soon as possible

Russia `s Interest : you are saying that Russia want to trade with stable Afghanistan so listen ,Stable Afghanistan means Taliban`s rule of law and their regime so she want to withdraw NATO from Afghanistan and he has no any interest here ,i am right !

India`s Interest : India`s interest just belongs to Pakistan`s instability and if she really want to destabilize Pakistan then she should throw out NATO and US from Afghanistan and support Taliban and negotiate with them to implement Sharia in Pakistan automatically he will get her interest because a unstable Pakistan will not be good for china as well which is also India`s rival and he can also be able to destroy our nuclear weapons and can do with us same as she did in 1971 and for trade i shall say if you have seen the map of Asia then you can imagine that what will be best route for India, Iran or Afghanistan so see the map once bro.

Resolution of Afghan Conundrum : Give it to Taliban because they can die but they will not leave it so it is best option to give to Taliban and secure owns borders and try to create good relations with them.


and one thing opium and heroin are coming into your country because of your own mistakes America has not any role in this , it can remain continue after the withdrawal as well , so keep your borders secure instead of criticizing others .

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There are rapid changes in current Iranian Foreign Policy, may be you did not notice.

Come on guys be precise
US presence in Afghanistan is meant to contain china and beef up his surveillance programme on Pakistan india Russia iran china.

In shory term US presence in Afghanistan is no threat to India

If US is able to contain China then his next possible target would be containment of India

Post cold war policy of US is to contain any emerging power in order to prevent another cold war

Us wants to eradicate our nuclear capability or to install a puppet government in Pakistan so their presence in Afghanistan is obviously not good

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Rapid changes in iranian policy because US attitude towards IRAN has changed but why ?:what:

US has realised that Sunni Muslims are radical or jihadi so now they want to shake hands with IRAN or Shia Muslim also after the discovery of Shale gas they are no more dependent on Saudia Oil
Moreover Iran can play greater role in containment of China India or Sunni Taliban because of their geographical proximity and ideological beliefs as compare to Saudi:thumbup:

Iran is doing all this for his economic revival, enmity with saudia and more importantly SHIA domination

Noe this will increase sectarian violence in Pakistan because iran will support shia in Pakistan while Saudi will continue to support Taliban

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US thinktank's agenda
"we are not against Islam, we are not going to war against Islam, we want a war within the Islam" comment please

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I have to say I didn't like your comparison. Lolx
SHIA and SUNNI TALIBAN
SHIA AND TALIBAN

Don't play with words brother. Although your point is valid. Totally agree with you. America does know that SHIA and SUNNI do not see eye to eye due to basic religious reasons and this could be used against Pakistan. But its USA there would be even bigger reason in reconciliation with Iran. Pakistan is no more and never was their first priority for NATO related issues, Iran would be better for this trade. See, Iran unlike Pakistan does not hold any sympathies for Talibans so there would be less retaliation from general public and process could go smoothly for USA.

Current issue and related to your discussion.
Withdrawal of US (NATO) troops
The approaching Afghan endgame is an important factor in India's calculus to talk to Islamabad out of the concern not to be marginalized from a diplomatic process that may eventually give Pakistan a key role in Afghan-led and US-backed reconciliation efforts with the Taliban. Dialogue also serves as a means to soften Islamabad's stance on an Indian role in post-war Afghanistan.




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2nd part...
America, for its part, needs Pakistan's help in Afghanistan, where the superpower is still struggling with the Taliban. America does not want anything to distract Pakistan from the military campaign it is waging against the Taliban and Al Qaeda. In response to a military threat from India, Pakistan's forces would be whisked away to the Eastern front. This would remove the anvil on which America hopes to hammer Taliban and Al Qaeda. About three-quarters of the food, fuel and other provisions that supply American troops pass through Pakistan.



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This is Obama-care for Asia, may be its just a feat, like many others in USA has orchestrated. America is yet to forget ransack of her embassy... But The point is quite valid, who knows.

Qaiser you did not come up with new point. Think again. Usman's point is more than valid. But who knows. But I always believe that it wouldn't be possible for people like us to understand the entangled traps set by policy makers.