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I think the biggest challenge for establishing democracy in Pakistan is the people always believing someone is responsible for their miseries and problems, whether international conspirators or their local collaborators. This is the same thinking that triggered rise of fascism in Europe, and this is prevalent here in this country. The problem is not with IK or NS, they are playing their games as per the rules of it . Knowingly or unknowingly, free media also fuels this thinking
But the predicament for Pakistan is even fascism is not possible here, because even that require some cultural homogeneity etc.
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During his speech, Mr. Tahir Qadri reiterates that Nawaz, Shahbaz, Nisar etc resign and face the trial for murdering people in model town, like a common man. He directs FIA, airport authorities etc to stop them from fleeing abroad, if they try to do so.
He comes to end monarchism/dictatorship and, himself dictates the authorities alone, without the consultation of people of Pakistan. How can he be the sole representative of the people and decide all the matters on his own, when he has not been elected through people!?. Revolution does not come by paralyzing the country, spreading anarchy, instigating fears; it is a slow phenomena that is initiated, first on individual basis!. Every one in his own sphere, vicinity, capacity, can bring revolution by doing his assigned task honestly with patriotism!.
Lastly, these two jokers are not angels; just see TUQ previous interview on express news, in which his fallacies are proved with video clips by the anchorperson and what has IK done in KP so far?. Will he only begin when, become the PM!?
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Default War of attrition vs politics of deadline

PTI show of power and much touted million march so far has been a farce keeping in view the dismal numerical strength shown up.

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Moreover, organizational skill of PTI and attitude of core leadership that is staying in Bani gala, K-P house and Serena hotel has also attracted lots of criticism from media. On the other hand, govt is extracting sadist pleasure, more contended to fight a war of attrition and play on the patience of marchers, letting inclement weather of Islamabad to take care of them.

Today, IK has given a call for civil disobedience, refusing to pay utility bills, taxes until PM tenders his resignation. I believe civil disobedience started when PTI supporters including CM Pervaiz Khattak refused to pay toll taxes on motorway couple of days ago. This appears to be a tactical move to build pressure and keep marchers interested. It would have make sense had IK asked his faithful parliamentarians to resign from both provincial and national assemblies. That would have been a perfect starting point to reflect PTI' seriousness to show they really mean business.
I still believe that PTI has taken a maximalist stance in order to extract minimalist concession from govt. Ultimate way out of this crisis is negotiated political settlement promising recount in some constituencies coupling with electoral reforms.
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Civil disobedience would be the most stupendous call to make. Perhaps IK wanted face saving
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Perhaps IK wanted face saving
I think he wants govt attention. Civil disobedience will not save his face rather it will tarnish his political capital.
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I think he wants govt attention. Civil disobedience will not save his face rather it will tarnish his political capital.
Or it could be that now he wants Qadri to do something
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And now PTI legislators have decided to resign from National Assembly and all provincial assemblies saving KPK. This has been by far the biggest decision PTI has made so far. There was a strong impression that from PTI side something of substantive magnitude has to be done to live upto all the hype and expectation which were created and nurtured. Previously, PTI was increasing their stakes to such proportions where there was no point of return.

Now when this decision has been made, it is remain to be seen what impact this mass exodus will make. Will it destablise the overall political scenario of the country to such extent the govt will have to succumb or it will prove prove final nail in the coffin of IK's politics and they will mete out the same fate as did Aam Admi Party in India?
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And now PTI legislators have decided to resign from National Assembly and all provincial assemblies saving KPK. This has been by far the biggest decision PTI has made so far. There was a strong impression that from PTI side something of substantive magnitude has to be done to live upto all the hype and expectation which were created and nurtured. Previously, PTI was increasing their stakes to such proportions where there was no point of return.

Now when this decision has been made, it is remain to be seen what impact this mass exodus will make. Will it destablise the overall political scenario of the country to such extent the govt will have to succumb or it will prove prove final nail in the coffin of IK's politics and they will mete out the same fate as did Aam Admi Party in India?
I still think IK wants to retreat now. The tensions amongst ranks in PTI has become more prominent with some like Hashmi giving a call to their conscience and many others eager for glory want to keep sticking to their KPK government . IK is probably isolated and cornered, let's see if he can come out of that corner. Usually cornered people would take rash decisions so if I am correct we should expect more of apparently insane moves by IK
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Yes Imran Khan makes mistakes but his sincerity, integrity and honesty is beyond question. Yes he is not a perfect politician but after 68 years do we still need compromising "perfect" politicians? If you people will not back him then who would you root for, is it Nawaz Sharif or Zardari? He has given us that important third option. I still think if he loses politically it would not be only his loss but of everyone of us. Nobody would stand for our rights. In the end real losers would be us, the commoners. Who don't even have right to choose their own representatives fairly. What was he asking for, audit in just 4 constituencies, electoral reforms, culprits who rigged the last election be punished and what government did? Laughed at him, made the mockery out of his demands. He tried tribunals (which are bound to resolve the cases within 4 months constitutionally but they didn't), judiciary and parliament. Then what is the way out if not the street agitation? What do you suggest, should he just sit back and not ask for justice? Should he just let it go, this injustice must be stopped someday otherwise we are looking for a red revolution that would not only take out the evil but the honest ones will also suffer.

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In the midst of March and Inqalab and interesting comparison can be made here,.........Tahir ul Qadri is exhibiting strong leadership qualities, showing very firm control over his charged crowd. On the other hand ‪#‎IK‬ is losing this battle of leadership by admitting every know and then he can't control his marchers anymore. . Earlier, he lost many of his fans when he deviated from his solemn pledge not to enter in red zone.
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