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ISIS is an emerging militant organization. What are the causes of its coming into being? is it a threat in any way to Pakistan. what strategies should Pakistan assume to pre empt those threats.
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The global propaganda machines are simply making a monster out of ISIS it seems. So far ISIS has only managed to seize some territory and make statements for propaganda, however there is an increased polarization between Islamic and Liberal forces throughout Muslim world and various Islamic states are failing as old Islamic civilization is slowly crumbling, so there is a reason to be concerned . Personally I don't think ISIS is anything of concern for Pakistan at least as of now, it would need to make a lot of achievement before it can become a real monster
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The global propaganda machines are simply making a monster out of ISIS it seems. So far ISIS has only managed to seize some territory and make statements for propaganda, however there is an increased polarization between Islamic and Liberal forces throughout Muslim world and various Islamic states are failing as old Islamic civilization is slowly crumbling, so there is a reason to be concerned . Personally I don't think ISIS is anything of concern for Pakistan at least as of now, it would need to make a lot of achievement before it can become a real monster
The problem isn't what ISIS IS, but what it may BECOME. They are by far more organized than either the Taliban or the Al Qaeda, have a better propaganda machine than either, have a more efficient leader and huge amounts of modern weaponry (most of it American made) that they got from the Arabs (when these same people were fighitng Assad) or seized from the retreating Iraqi forces. Plus they have a large supply of ready money (upwards of $2 billion according to one estimate). All of this in addition to the fact that after so much turmoil, Iraq is easy prey. So their position looks to be pretty good
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The global propaganda machines are simply making a monster out of ISIS it seems. So far ISIS has only managed to seize some territory and make statements for propaganda, however there is an increased polarization between Islamic and Liberal forces throughout Muslim world and various Islamic states are failing as old Islamic civilization is slowly crumbling, so there is a reason to be concerned . Personally I don't think ISIS is anything of concern for Pakistan at least as of now, it would need to make a lot of achievement before it can become a real monster
But i think they have achieved quiet alot in comparatively short period of time. And Pakistan cant deny that it provides the best recruiting base for them, considering some sectarian groups have already joined ISIS. Initially we also denied the al qaeda threat which eventually became a reason for breach in country's sovereignty(drones).
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To understand the phenomenal rise of ISIS, you would need to contextualize the organization within the broader framework of Global Jihad. Robert Fisk, the Middle Eastern expert and journalist, had called IS a combination of Mickey Mouse and Genghis Khan. I don't really see how IS could possibly have an immediate impact on Pakistan; if anything, the shifting of the focus to Syria and Iraq due to American involvement could keep Pakistan out of the news. But given that Global Jihad is transnational, Pakistan could serve as a supply chain for armament or human bombs. In any case, the Middle East is going to burn and the Americans are very much part of the problem. IS's beheading of Western journalists and aid workers almost gives one the impression that the organization wants the West to intervene in the region. That is what these terror groups feed on: Anti-Americanism.
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All of this in addition to the fact that after so much turmoil, Iraq is easy prey. So their position looks to be pretty good
Hmmm their position is being made good by fear mongering media I think . The CNN started this fear mongering and now even India feels ISIS is coming for the hindus . Interestingly many westerners are joining this organization, including white westerners. Apart from that, I think it's nothing more than an Iraqi resistance having a 'potential' of becoming global jihadi threat, and knowingly or unknowingly international propaganda is helping them become one.
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There was an article that I saw on Twitter recently: How the West created ISIS. But I think you may be right here, if one were to watch CNN, you would get the impression that the only thing that should matter to an American is the threat of ISIS; not property prices, gridlock in DC or the state of the economy. This fits in with the 'enemy gap' theory, which is to say, that the US, with its powerful military, always needs an enemy to fight against, and in the instance they do not have one, they create one. Witness how after the fall of the Berlin Wall, the United States had to seek refuge in the War on Terror and feed that narrative of Global Jihad to the domestic American audience. So there is that element for sure, but who knows, perhaps ISIS is indeed the monster that the West is projecting it to be?
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Yes of course it may have the potential there is no doubt about that. But imagine without extensive coverage for apparently no good reason we won't even be aware of this phenomenon here, rest aside feeling a threat from it to our country. so far ISIS is not making any statements for itself, others are doing it for them for free . If ISIS had the capability of forcing the broadcast of their propaganda to a wider global audience it would've been a separate issue (it will become a monster only after achieving that), but it seems CNN is volunteering to help broadcast them . Moreover global jihad is perhaps not even appealing to wider Muslim youth nowadays, ISIS ranks are largely swelled by local Iraq and Levant disillusionment and it even drive it's name from there .
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Initially we also denied the al qaeda threat which eventually became a reason for breach in country's sovereignty(drones).
We didn't only deny it, we nurtured it! The Pakistanis didn't want to press the Taliban about their links with Al Qaeda because the Afghan Taliban were part of Pakistan's fantasy defense against India. Pakistan's brinkmanship has destroyed the country, had we steered clear of religion, we would have been a regional power like Turkey. Any man who loves Pakistan ought to cry when he thinks about what religion has done to this great country...
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Here are some points below which would clearly decipher the existence and future course of ISIS:

1.It is an off-shoot to Alqaeda, arose in early February.
2. It started from the northern part of Iraq; seized most of northern and congealed its steps in Syria too through border.
3. Formerly it was called 'Islamic state of Iraq and Al-Sham (ISIS). It has changed its name to 'Islamic State (IS) to let know its establishment of a caliphate system in entire Muslim world.
4. Many Islamist militants as well as European ones have joined IS.
5. It is now much more strong than Al-qaeda despite being its off-shoot.
6. Its leader 'Abu Bakr Al-Baghdadi' has declared himself as caliphate and the leader of all the Muslims of the world.
7. Tehrik-i-Taliban Pakistan has also inspired by its swiftness and rapid increase in its strength. Both the groups are now in contact with each other to spread more its threat to other regions too.
8. Al-qaeda hesitates and fears its existence in such a less time.
9. Pakistan is supposed to remain concern by TTP's full support to IS which could congeal its steps in Pakistan with probably such a short time.
10. US and its allies have prepared to launch air stirkes and ground offensive in Iraq and Syria to eradicate the threat of IS with the help of Arabs and Iraqi forces.
11. Its future course is that if US fails to combat IS and could not win the support of its allies, IS would emerge more extensively and with more menace.
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