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he was kind of an 'innocent guy' there is no point in going into 'intellectualism with him' .
Intelligence demands patience as well. People like you and Gypsfield must not put yourself in debates having quite predictable end. There are people of varying calibre here in this forum and you can easily judge who lies in which category.So, try to insult at least people of your same level.
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So, try to insult at least people of your same level.
hahaha that's a nice point , I would keep that in mind . I think it's better to avoid insulting someone and wait to be 'insulted' first hahaha
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hahaha that's a nice point , I would keep that in mind . I think it's better to avoid insulting someone and wait to be 'insulted' first hahaha
haha..No Problem...Waa Tu Izzu Man Tashau Watuzillu Man Tasha...Every body is trying to hurt here...We will stand out if we choose a stance on contrary to it...
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did mohammad ali jinah really negotiated for a piece of real estate for us?

my father says the problem is that jinnah negotiated a piece of real estate
for us but not a state.
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So there should be no different dress code for muslim women if they want to play any game?
As a nation we have always been good at hockey, but Zia made our female hockey players wear baggy trousers instead of shorts, and stopped women playing some sports altogether. (page # 21)

The problem is not that of a seperate dress code, the problem is FORCING someone to dress a particular way. Forcing a woman to wear a burka is as wrong as forcing her to go naked.[/QUOTE]


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So there should be no islamic studies in school syllabus? In history sindh is called as "fortress of islam" instead pakistan.
What is the need for Islamic studies in school? The state should remain out of religious matters.


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[B]Wearing a burqa is like walking inside big fabric shuttlecock with only a grille to see through and on hot days it’s like an oven.
Is this a lie? Is the Burka not a big fabric with only a small slit to see through?

I hope my own daughter's world view as as developed at Malala's age as hers is. She really is an extraordinary girl! The only people against here are ulta-conservative religious zaealots who would rather we live in a 10th century misogynistic society. But people like Malala are symbols of hope and an inspiration to a person like me who dreams of the day when I can take the fight to mullahs as a PSP officer!
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There are lots of highly educated criminals rotting in jail. Being educated doesn't mean you get a get-out-of-jail-free card.
What was the crime of Dr. Afia siddiqui?!?!

Malala...A puppet for America that's all she is!!!
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Aitzaz Hasan: Tributes to Pakistan teenager killed when he stopped a bomber

Tributes have been pouring in for a Pakistani teenager who was killed on Monday when he tackled a suicide bomber targeting his school in the Hangu area.

Aitzaz Hasan, 15, was with friends outside school when they spotted a man wearing a suicide vest.

Despite the pleas of his fellow students, he decided to confront and capture the bomber who then detonated his vest, his cousin told the BBC.

Aitzaz is being hailed as a hero in an outpouring of praise on social media.

There have even been calls for him to receive the army's highest honour awarded to those who have sacrificed their life for their country, though it is unclear if he would be qualified to receive it as a civilian.

"We the citizens believe that State of Pk must award Nishan-i-Haider to Pk's brave son Shaheed Aitezaz," journalist Nasim Zehra tweeted on Thursday.

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The incident took place on Monday in Ibrahimzai, a Shia-dominated region of Hangu, in north-western Pakistan. There were almost 2,000 students in attendance at the time of the attack, media reports say.

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"My cousin sacrificed his life saving his school and hundreds of students and school fellows," his cousin Mudassar Hassan Bangish told the BBC's Aleem Maqbool.

"The suicide bomber wanted to destroy the school and school students. It was my cousin who stopped him from this...destruction."

Pakistani security personnel examine the site of a suicide bombing in the Ibrahimzai area of Hangu district on January 6, 2014.
There were said to be about 2,000 students at Aitzaz's school at the time of the attack
He then described the sequence of events as related to him by witnesses at the school.

Aitzaz's friends had urged him not to confront the suicide bomber but he ignored their pleas and decided to confront the man with the intention of halting him.

"So he told them 'I'm going to stop him. He is going to school to kill my friends'. He wanted to capture this suicide bomber. He wanted to stop [him]. Meanwhile the suicide bomber blasted himself which resulted in the death of my cousin," Mr Bangish said.

He described Aitzaz as "brave" and a good student. "He always used to say 'I am always ready for my country'."

His family insist that rather than focus on the sorrow brought about by his death, they want to focus on their pride in his actions.

"He is a shahid [martyr]. A shahid of his whole nation," he said.

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Aitzaz's death: Twitter reaction

Hundreds of users have been tweeting the story of Pakistan's fallen teenager.

"Aitzaz Hasan, 15 years old, gave his life to stop a suicide bomber in Pakistan. A reminder to us all what real courage is. RIP, brave soul," writer and journalist Omer Aziz tweeted on Thursday.

"From #Malala to #Aitzaz Irum young people paving the way for Jinnah's #Pakistan with their blood. #onemillionaitzazs," blogger Murtaza Solangi tweeted.

Government officials have not yet visited the school or Aitzaz's family, prompting requests from Twitter users that they do so. Politicians and public figures also added to the chorus of praise for Aitzaz.

His family have also spoken of Aitzaz's actions in Pakistan's Express Tribune newspaper.

"My son made his mother cry, but saved hundreds of mothers from crying for their children," Mujahid Ali, Aitzaz's father is quoted as saying.

Sectarian violence
According to Mr Bangish, people in the area would like to see the government give Aitzaz an award to recognise his bravery, and compared him with celebrated Pakistani education campaigner Malala Yousafzai - a comparison being echoed across social media.

On Twitter, users are paying tribute to Aitzaz using the hashtags #onemillionaitzaz and #AitzazBraveheart echoing the language used online around figures such as Malala and the Delhi rape victim, whose death galvanised Indian public opinion and prompted changes in rape laws there.

Former Pakistani ambassador to the US Sherry Rehman tweeted: "Hangu's shaheed Aitzaz Hasan is #Pakistan's pride. Give him a medal at least. Another young one with heartstopping courage #AitzazBraveheart."

Hangu is close to Pakistan's semi-autonomous tribal regions, which have a strong Taliban and al-Qaeda presence and the area is also known for sectarian violence against Shia Muslims.

Mr Bangish said the region's residents are "patriotic people" but have to contend with difficult conditions.

He he added that in order to cope with such conditions and tackle the "fights and blast ... needs courage like Aitzaz has. We salute his bravery".

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The problem is not that of a seperate dress code, the problem is FORCING someone to dress a particular way. Forcing a woman to wear a burka is as wrong as forcing her to go naked.
So in games everyone is free to choose dress code according to their choice?




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What is the need for Islamic studies in school? The state should remain out of religious matters.
Then our state should be secular instead islamic state?




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Is this a lie? Is the Burka not a big fabric with only a small slit to see through?

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I hope my own daughter's world view as as developed at Malala's age as hers is. She really is an extraordinary girl! The only people against here are ulta-conservative religious zaealots who would rather we live in a 10th century misogynistic society. But people like Malala are symbols of hope and an inspiration to a person like me who dreams of the day when I can take the fight to mullahs as a PSP officer!
Well freedom of choice is right of everyone, but how this liberal view change when a woman choose niqab as her dress code but then she is termed as ''oppressed'', "living in 10th century", liberals will appreciate france's ban on "niqab" but will condemn if "niqab" is made compulsory.
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i am glad that i saw this precious moment
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So in games everyone is free to choose dress code according to their choice?

Then our state should be secular instead islamic state?





Well freedom of choice is right of everyone, but how this liberal view change when a woman choose niqab as her dress code but then she is termed as ''oppressed'', "living in 10th century", liberals will appreciate france's ban on "niqab" but will condemn if "niqab" is made compulsory.
Well. You can't play hockey by putting on a baggy. I am afraid if same baggy and Naqab got allocated for Swimming, all women will be drowned.
Religion is a personal choice. It's also a personal choice, to what extent some one want to be in the boundaries of religion.
Some one asked Dr Zakir about Sania Mirza that she wears short dresses etc. He replied to him that she is better then our male cricket players as she says her 5 times prayer. I'll add...She is better at least then our so-called religious "Burq Posh" (having hidden relations) as she never got caught in any "Affairs" during her career.
As far as France case is concerned it is same like beard. People are not comfortable about Muslim appearances after 9/11..Again due Talibans the Saviors of their version of Islam...The reason even liberal actors like SRK came up with a block buster "My name is Khan"...
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we should not support the agenda of "west". They just generate a little flame and we all provide petrol to the flame by commenting on different rumors. we must extinguish the fire by supporting our heroes, who bring good name to Pakistan.
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