It is pleasing to listen from atleast one supporter of merit system that "It should be followed every where"

My intention to point out Jagirdars and Wadaras was not to pin point any particular region. The purpose of my last post was to state that the things are being followed according to a "System". I have mentioned saveral times that i neither support merit nor do i the qouta system for any favour or support it may render to me. I always emphasise the consencious that being more importnt then disagreement. I say that if the representative in the national assembely whom are elected by us decide to abolish qouta, then abolish qouta, if they decided to go with it let not any one criticize it. Qouta for baloch's was increased through a package announced by the assembely who represents none but us. so is there remain any ground to argue that perheps balochs now are getting more seats then before.

There is another thing which i donot know why people donot realize. Seats in our national assembely are allocated on the basis of population. Recent tests conducted by ISI for AD post were allocated seats in the same propotion. NFC award acknowleges Population (and now few more factors) but when comes to css people get tensed that injust has been extended to them when population is made criteria for allocation!! is it not a strange attitude. Should this be the response if 600 candidates start passing from sindh, then will people from punjab compalint about the issue??

This situation need a little apethy... Place yourself on the position of candidate from sindh who if compete is open merit will not be able to secure a position due to so many candidates from elsewhere. If he, then raises a question that why merit has not been followed every where, will you be in position to anwer his query???

@Faseeh

In addition to what you have said, this is what I stress upon that now is the right time to make much needed change. If more than 500 candidates are suffering allocation problem from a single province even having much more marks than other candidates, it implies a substantial problem in our quota system. If education is the excuse, I do not agree to it.

Education has become much common than ever before with exception of Baluchistan and Some areas of K.P. Sometimes, you know, even seats remain vacant in povinces except punjab because number of candidates who qualify are fewer than seats reserved. It does not mean than people are not educated. the competition is less because of the fewer number of people.

Therfore, our system should be flexible enough to accomodate necessary changes so that frustration of so many candidates may not hinder their future.

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dear invincible u r right there is no quota system in any developed country. but what is our country everyone knows very well.

how divided we are, how difference of illiteracy and development exist in our country.

dear we dont afraid from punjab neither we have any political interest. still we are students strugling for our future. when time for politics come we talk it openly.

qouta system had been suggested since the days of sir syed when there was a great difference of literacy among the indians.

last but not the least dear i being an inhabitant of sindh further the cause of southern punjab where hardly any candidate is competant enough to compete with the contestants of lahore, pindi and faisalabad. wether there should not be any split quota within punjab just like it exists in sindh.

u know in bhawalpur district literacy rate is 19% whereas it is round about 90% in lahore and upper punjab.

i think we must have an equal distribution of resources not on the basis of merit but on the basis of contribution each provice share and the right each provine deserve.

because we are not still a developed country.

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im also not in favour of quota system..its because of this that all the candidates from Karachi and Balochistan are going to allocate this year,while candidates from Punjab are facing mental agony even after securing comparativly better merit number than the candidates from Karachi and Balochistan etc...students from other provinces are also used to study in the academies of lhr for the sake of css preparation..if quota system is necessary,then Punjab should also be divided in upper and south punjab..whats the sin of the candidates who are appearing In Css exam with the domicile of Punjab???...

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@Maha Khan,

This is what i have said some one hundred times that if people want Quota, Let there be Quota Every Where, in our national assembely, in NFC, In services, in military etc etc.

If all of us yeal for merit let there be merit every where, Just like in ur case when you say that Let Punjab be divided in two parts for the sake of representation, other parts also desire their representation secured through Quota!!!

I an imagine how annoying it will be when a candidate get through this tough exam and find itself in net-loss when candidates lower in merit get through it by allocations, but let it be decided not just for CSS, but for every aspect of our life.

And i can bet on the fact that if this issue raised at national level, will never reach a result, due to suspections of the provinces other then Punjab. Take my words for gurantee. It will be yet anohter issue added to the list of KBD and so on.

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Faseeh

Well a nice discussion is going on in a right direction. Before comment directly whether Quota system be allowed or not, let me enlighten about Federation and its existence.

Normally, a federation is formed between people of different regions based on mutual respect and consent for the greater interest of the people. Every region tender its capability, resources and willingness to participate in the greater interest and prosperity of the federation. Moreover, every region is willing to find answer to the following questions

1) What are the available resources in each region/state
2) How revenue will be generated
3) How resources will be allocated and divided among regions
4) How these resources will be managed and by whom with how much proportionate.

let’s take an example of Pakistan, where federation is formed by the mutual agreement of the following states (set aside Bangla & Kashmir)
1) Punjab
2) Khyber Pukhtunkhawa
3) Sindh
4) Baluchistan
How above mentioned questions are answered by every states will help us understand the subjected matter.

What are the available resources in each region?

Khyber Pukhtunkhawa :
We have fresh water resources which will be used for drinking, farming and cheap electricity generation.
Punjab:
We will use the fresh water to farm different seed (Sugar, wheat, Cotton etc) which will be utilized internally in the country and will also be exported to generate outstanding foreign reserve.

Sindh:

a) We have ports, which will be used for export and import activities.
b) We have technical labor which will be utilized in industries
c) We have coal reservoir which will be used for cheap electricity generation

Baluchistan:
We are rich of natural resources like gas, petrol and alike. Federation can use this to accommodate its energy need. In return, I will expect fresh water, wheat, sugar.

Revenue generation and resource allocation:
These regions have established mutual formulas which are used for revenues generation and distribution mechanism(NFC waghaira).

Resource Management and Managers:
Now here comes the crucial part: who will manage these resources? There are three possibilities
a) Each State will solely appoint people who will manage these resources
Merits:
1) Each state will have less or no grievance in terms of authority
2) Managers will be solely responsible for all their actions and so do the State, since the managers are nominated by the respective State, therefore it will feel solidarity and responsibility towards all actions of the managers.

Demerits:
1) Federation will loose its authority because the appointed managers sentiments will be bound solely to the respective state and will care less about federation interest, or in worst, existence.

b) Select best people across the federation, through a competitive procedure, irrespective of their descent to the region and let them manage the resources

Merits:
1) Best people will get selected and appointed
2) Federation authority will be impose at all levels and so do strengthen its writ.

Demerits:
1) Less representation of different States in federation, which will ultimately lead to spark the grievances of people that they are managed and their resources are utilized by the people who are not amongst them
2) Chances are high that the managers may take some decision which are in favor of one state while harming the interest of other.

c) Select best available people across the federation, through a competitive procedure, and allocate quota for the best people from each State to be selected to manage people and their resources.

Third option is a hybrid of first & second which is deemed considered as an optimistic approach. This procedure will serve the purpose to select best possible candidate from each state, ensure equal representation in federation, imposing authority of the center/federation and also lessen the grievances of the states.

Well, I am (Rana Zeeshan Pervaiz) the original writer of the letter.

The purpose was not to offend anyone. The purpose was to make government realize that providing quotas to all provinces is not the solution to the problem. The sole solution is to raise the standards of education of the provinces rather than giving concessions so that a real competition can be observed and quality people can be recruited. Whether it be all from Balochistan, Sindh(U/R) or KP. Quality and merit should be the criteria.

I belong to Multan a southern city of Multan who's education standard is worst than that of Peshawar and Karachi. If quota system is the only solution than people from Multan, Bahawalpur, Rajanpur, D.G Khan should also have separate quota. Although these are rural areas but they are not given quotas as given to Sindh(R). So these areas are being neglected too but still people from these areas have made it upto the superior services and they have never asked for any kind of quota.

So the point is that instead of just settling down issues temporarily the government should settle them permanently. Every province should improve their educational standard and STOP ASKING FOR CONCESSIONS. The point can be transformed to two words. Grow up!

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People in Karachi dont even sit for exams in because of this quota system and believe me they are a talented lot, the fact that they can run the banking, manufacturin sector speaks for their competence but now they just abhore the government jobs, so I believe if there is a quota in tact atleast we should get rid of it in Sindh as it is dividing Sindh more than anything else.