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NAB is already processing the recruitment on fast track due to petitions filed by candidates and chairman NAB is annoyed of this. It is not possible for NAB to issue offer letters to the trainees without recruitment of trainers. 21st of this month is last day of submission of applications for instructors. It will take minimum 10 days for their appointment and 15 days for their joining. They will be available after 25 days i.e. 16th of next month. Similarly, 20 days, atleast, will be given to the trainees for medical examination and joining time. which means offer letters are expected from 1st to 5th of next month. So, my advice ......Sit back, relax and enjoy.
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also do come up with other fruitful ways as well......


international monitoring agencies ki taraf se bh pressure buildup kia ja sakta h

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NAB is already processing the recruitment on fast track due to petitions filed by candidates and chairman NAB is annoyed of this. It is not possible for NAB to issue offer letters to the trainees without recruitment of trainers. 21st of this month is last day of submission of applications for instructors. It will take minimum 10 days for their appointment and 15 days for their joining. They will be available after 25 days i.e. 16th of next month. Similarly, 20 days, atleast, will be given to the trainees for medical examination and joining time. which means offer letters are expected from 1st to 5th of next month. So, my advice ......Sit back, relax and enjoy.
which rule says k offers letters cant be issued until instructors are hired????? strange yaarrr..


aisa kyun nh sochte k hamay offer letters de diye jae k hum medical wagaira kara lay ..in the meantime instructors bh hire kiye jaey...jaise k kisi ko bond wagaira bharke daine parege before leaving their old jobs ....apne paoo pe khud he kulhare mar rahe ho kay pehle instructors phir letters ....wah bhai wah
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I am done with this. NACommission is being formed to rehabilitate the NAB, as they say, therefore strength of officers and staff is must. Recruitment will not be affected.

Yes, I write the same things as you say with dates. Just read carefully. Another thing, What inexperienced JIOs, ADs and DDs will do, if they do not know abc of investigation or orientation and strength of department. how will they investigate money laundering cases etc. think about it. It will be a blunder, if done so it is not possible to do alike many other organizations you say.
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I am done with this. NACommission is being formed to rehabilitate the NAB, as they say, therefore strength of officers and staff is must. Recruitment will not be affected.
I have to say nothing except the wish that guys can see beyond the wall. This will set them free from many misunderstandings and misconceptions.
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whosoever is serious about joining Nab , he should stir up the enviroment and should write to everybody he can.....nobody will get annoyed ......also there is a possibility that this legal expert is telling you about the ways to guard your interests ..this can be a gift by the organisation that you are going to join( a hint about me )....so plzzzz follow the advice .....else stakes are solely yours .....here is a concern about both u people as well as accountability in our homeland ..

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@Aslam, i think the new accountability bill is totally a revamp of an existing autonomous accountability unit which has great international recognition.
This revamp has been talk of the town since the idea was presented and i think most intl bodies and organizations like transparency would be fully aware of the current scenario more then us so no need to worry.
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ISLAMABAD: Even the tame and under-pressure National Accountability Bureau (NAB) has rejected in totality the government’s new proposed accountability law, expressing serious concerns about it, calling it toothless and a lame duck.

The NAB says the new accountability bill does not consider bribery as corruption defined under Section 9(a) of the National Accountability Ordinance 1999 (NAO).

The NAB has prepared a detailed comparison of the existing accountability law and the proposed law and sent its reservations to the Ministry of Law, Justice and Parliamentary Affairs for consideration while proposing that the existing anti-corruption laws were more powerful than the proposed law.

According to the comparison document that was prepared by the NAB, a copy of which is available with The News, the new accountability bill ignores the basic philosophy of corruption as envisaged in Section 33B and 33C of NAO 1999.

The Article-5 of the United Nations Convention Against Corruption (UNCAC) says: “Each state party shall develop and implement effective coordinated anti-corruption policies that promote integrity, transparency and accountability.

“Each state party shall endeavour to establish and promote effective practices aimed at prevention of corruption and to periodically evaluate relevant legal instruments and administrative measures with a view to determining their adequacy to prevent and fight corruption.”

According to the NAB, the new Accountability Bill provides a limited scope of international cooperation as the Bill says that chairman NAB or any other authorised person can make a request to foreign jurisdiction for mutual legal assistance but is silent in case Pakistan receives any request from foreign jurisdiction in matters relating to corruption.

The Article-46 of the UNCAC provides a “state-of-the-art’ explanation on Mutual Legal Assistance (MLA) and encourages the State parties to afford one another the widest measure of the MLA in investigations, prosecutions and judicial proceedings and to improve domestic legislation in the light of the provisions of the article.

Through a 17-point comparison between the new proposed accountability bill and NAO 1999, the NAB has pointed out that the news bill applies to holders of public office whereas the NAO applies to all persons/citizens of Pakistan, including the person who are or have been in the service of Pakistan. “The commission would face difficulty in future interventions in terms of tackling corruption in case the matter pertains to private person where public at large has been defrauded,” the NAB viewed.

The NAB was of the view that new bill be extended to whole of Pakistan while the NAO specifically includes the areas of Fata and Pata and in case the bill is approved, it would face legal implication in case the matters pertains to these areas.

The NAB pointed out that there are three stages in criminal prosecution while under investigation, an individual is a “suspect”, under trial he is an ‘accused’, if found guilty, he is convicted but the new proposed bill fails to differentiate between the first two.

The new proposed law considers federal, provincial and local governments as “appropriate government” whereas the NAO provides a diversified definition covering all persons employed by any corporation, bank, financial institution, body, authority undertaking or any other organisation controlled or administrated by these governments while the NAO provides a better solution.

The NAB pointed out that the new proposed law defines assets as any property, moveable or immovable, owned or belonging to an accused while NAO provides a comprehensive concept of ‘assets’ with addition of words, directly or indirectly, whether inside or outside of Pakistan, including the assets held by family members, associates, relatives and ‘benamidars’ relating to the accused.

The NAB also pointed out that the new proposed bill excludes the definitions of terms “judge”, “associates”, “freezing”, “person” and government property, which should be there for clarity of issues while proceeding a case in the court of law.

The NAB pointed out that in the new proposed bill, the process of appointment of chairman is faulty and at the end of the day if no choice is made, whoever’s name happens to be first on the list can be appointed as chairman.

A far important point in the bill is appointment of chairman that is no longer secure, while under the NAO, the chairman could only be removed under the same process that is applicable to the removal of a judge of the Supreme Court as this guarantees him a tenure of four years and the liberty to act without any political pressure but under the new proposed bill, the chairman will remain under constant threat.

The NAB pointed out that the new proposed bill limits the scope for the appointment of chairman as only retired judge of the Supreme Court and a retired federal government officer of grade 22 is eligible to become chairman whereas the NAO provide more reasonable and valid criteria to fill this post by adding a word “equivalent”.

The NAB pointed out that unlike the NAO, the bill fails to provide career security to the officials working under the proposed commission.

The bill excludes the concept of other person as in the NAO and deals with only ‘holders of public office’ as such exclusion would not serve the purpose of across the board accountability and sufferings of public at large in the hands of corrupt in private sector like ‘Double Shah scam’ and housing frauds, could not be tackled under this bill.

The new proposed bill also excludes the concept of active bribery by deleting the word ‘offer; as envisaged in the NAO and in its present shape the bill covers only passive bribery whereas articles-15, 16 and 21 of the UNCAC encourage the state parties to improve their legislation in the light of said articles dealing with active and passive bribery of ‘national public officials’, foreign public officials and officials of public international organisations and private sectors.

The NAB pointed out that the punishment under the new proposed bill has been relaxed from 14-years imprisonment as envisaged in the NAO to seven years whereas disqualification of being a member of parliament is reduced to five years instead of 10-years while the concept of the forfeiting assets has been excluded in the proposed bill.

The bill makes the process of filing a complaint more complex and difficult for the complainant, discouraging the whistle-blowers therein as under the new bill the commission would entertain only those complaints from private persons, accompanied by the attested copy of complainant’s CNIC along-with an affidavit supporting his allegation duly attested by an oath commissioner as well as his postal address. This sort of limitation would badly damage the concept of the whistle blowers in our country where corruption is rampant amongst the holders of public office.

The complaints against seniors by their staff regarding their financial mismanagement could never see daylight in case the bill got approved.

The NAB also pointed out the bill curtails chairman’s powers in procuring banking information by linking it with prior permission of the court as such a provision would only delay the administration of justice as the investigation organ has a limitation of complete inquiry/investigation within a time frame of 90-days.

The NAB viewed that the new proposed bill also curtails powers to seek assistance from foreign jurisdiction, as the scope of the international cooperation has been made limited in the bill as compared to the NAO, like power to make a mutual legal assistance request for freezing, confiscating and disposing of assets in foreign jurisdiction have been removed.

The NAB pointed out that the bill gives an open-handed concession to the accused person during inquiry or investigation the holders of public office could not be arrested, providing them a safe passage to flee the country while for women, corruption has been made a bailable offence in the bill.

The NAB concluded its comparison of the new and previous bills by saying that the spirit of preventive regime has been diluted in the bill limiting the activities under prevention function to only advise and assist without examining the laws, rules and regulations while an important aspect of monitoring of the workable recommendations under prevention regime has been removed from the bill and such a removal would be tantamount to serious repercussions in fighting corruption in the country.
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By Ansar Abbasi
Thursday, October 11, 2012

ISLAMABAD: The Transparency International Pakistan has rejected the draft National Accountability Commission law saying, if approved, it will protect the corrupt, legalise corruption of pre-2002 period and will be a violation of the principles of awareness, prevention and enforcement as required under the UN convention.

In his letter addressed to the law minister Farooq H Naik, the TIP adviser Adil Gillani while expressing dissatisfaction over the draft law said that corruption in past years has increased which calls for stringent accountability laws.

“Corruption has eaten away the very foundation of our country,” the TIP adviser said and raised the following objections in the draft law:

- All corruption acts of any public office holder prior to October 2002 stand legal acts under the Laws of Pakistan, which means that corruption of the period of dictator from 1999 to 2002 is also legalised.

- Chairman of National Accountability Commission will not be independent, but subservient to options of deputy chairman and prosecutor general, who will be appointed without consultation with the prime minister and the opposition leader.

- Section 18 of the draft law pertaining to voluntary return requires to be deleted as it allows corrupt public office holders to go scoot free by only returning the looted money, without any punishment.

- The principles of awareness, prevention and enforcement as required under UNCAC, ratified by Pakistan in 2007, have been violated.

- More than 80% financial corruption in Pakistan occurs in procurement. Therefore the deleted Section 33B (of the NAO) should be added to this Act. The said section envisages that all ministries, divisions and attached departments of the federal government, all departments of Provincial and local governments, statutory corporations or authorities established by the federal government or provincial government and holders of public office shall furnish to NAB a copy of any contract, entered into by such ministries, divisions and attached departments of the federal government, all departments of provincial government or local government, statutory corporations or authorities established by the federal government or provincial government or such holder of public office on its behalf, as the case may be, of the minimum monetary value of fifty million rupees or more, within such time as is reasonably practicable from the date of signing such contract.

- Section 39 of the proposed law exempts several categories of corruption and corrupt practices having done in the name of “Good Faith”, from the category of offences.
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whosoever is serious about joining Nab , he should stir up the enviroment and should write to everybody he can.....nobody will get annoyed ......also there is a possibility that this legal expert is telling you about the ways to guard your interests ..this can be a gift by the organisation that you are going to join( a hint about me )....so plzzzz follow the advice .....else stakes are solely yours .....here is a concern about both u people as well as accountability in our homeland ..

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Pakistan Zindabad.....
Bhai from which province U R n what is ur merit no(also post applied),as U seem too sure about ur selction in NAB,I'm at 4th in punjab for ASSISTANT DIRECTOR post(74 marks in written),but I'm still praying to Allah for this job,joining ka to abi socha hi nai,pehly final result ka to pata chalay na k kab aaey gaa.

I personally know about 11,12 people(3 of them my classfellow) who R in a very strong positions to get this job(being high in the merit list),yes some including me R a lil bit worried about NAB future but they all R hopeful to Allah that He will succeed them is this exam,all R praying k job ho jai,word hard and leave rest on Allah,is stage tak bhi to Allah ki madad se aaey ho aagay bhi Wohi le jai ga,ya jo jaga aap logon k liay achi hui wahan fit ho jao ge Insha Allah .
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Very Well said yasir, we all should have faith in Allaha n hope for the best, negative discussion kr k frustration ni create krni chaye,If unfortunatily NAC Bill get passed then almost 2,3 mothns required for its implementation, and inshallaha recruitment process will be completed in next month, so hope for the best.........!!!!!
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