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ok farrah g,i didnot notice any mistake bcoz i took it from past papers of pms.next time i will be careful. farrah its ok ma bhi apka hath btaon gi sara boojh apka kandhoon per dalna achi baat nhi,muji bhi contribute krne den.



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ye nojawan shezada waqayi bhadur,pyara,mutawazay,samajhdar aur apne baap ki tarha bakamal,faragh dil,jazbati,izat ke moamlay me khayali mansooba bandi karne wala,zati toar per bhadur aur eham moaqon per azeem taqat ka muzahera kerne wala tha.magar us me iradey aur mustaqil mezaji ki kami thi.wo musalsal jidijahad ki ehliat se ari tha aur fatah ke baad khud ko haeram nasheen kar k keemati lamhaat nasha karne waloon ki janat ma zaya kar deta tha.


plz correct if i am wrong any where.
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ok farrah g,i didnot notice any mistake bcoz i took it from past papers of pms.next time i will be careful. farrah its ok ma bhi apka hath btaon gi sara boojh apka kandhoon per dalna achi baat nhi,muji bhi contribute krne den.



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ye nojawan shezada waqayi bhadur,pyara,mutawazay,samajhdar aur apne baap ki tarha bakamal,faragh dil,jazbati,izat ke moamlay me khayali mansooba bandi karne wala,zati toar per bhadur aur eham moaqon per azeem taqat ka muzahera kerne wala tha.magar us me iradey aur mustaqil mezaji ki kami thi.wo musalsal jidijahad ki ehliat se ari tha aur fatah ke baad khud ko haeram nasheen kar k keemati lamhaat nasha karne waloon ki janat ma zaya kar deta tha.


plz correct if i am wrong any where.
Dear Sabahat you 'typed' the passage that's why there were few spelling mistakes or I don't expect it would be in paper
Sure you may do it along me

Here goes mine translation;


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passage no:-2

The young prince was indeed a gallant and lovable fellow,courteous,witty and accomplished like his father,warm hearted and emotional,almost quixotic in his notions of honour and magnanimity,personally brave and capable of great energy on occasions.but he lacked character and resolution.he was incapable of sustain effort and after a moment of triumph would busy himself in harem and dream away the precious hours in the opium eaters paradise.
Naujwan shehzada dar'haqeeqat na sirf khush wazaa aur her dil azeez tha balkay apnay baap ki tarah shayista,daana aur mukammal shakhsiat ka hamil bhi tha.wo garam josh aur jazbati tha aur kuch hadd tak waqaar aur buland himmati k muamlay mein khayali tasawur rakhta tha.go k wo bahadur tha aur moqaay ki munasbit se taaqat ka muzahira kerta tha mger us mein kirdaar o azm ka fuqdaan tha.wo musalsal jiddo'jehad ka ahel nahi tha aur fateh k doosray e lamhay wo harem'sara mein khud ko masroof ker leta.us k qeemti auqaat afeem khoron ki jannat ki nazer ho jatay.
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well farrah that could be a possibility which you mention.why are you asking farrah you have any doubt abut me.INSHALLAH me apni pori kosish krun gi,baqi uper wala malik ha.

farrah if you dont mind there are few mistakes in ur translation which i pointed out.


1:-un k hoslay passt hain
farrah dont you think its wrong.the correct sentence would be (unka hosla past ha)


2:-aaj tofani selaab ne hamari
you mention two things toofan and selaab is it correct.


3:-unhe mayoosi ki daldal se bahir nikalnay aur mutaharrik kernay k liye hamen he kuch kerna ho ga.

farrah agar is sentence ko is tarha ilkha jaye to thek ho ge(hamen unhe mayoosi ki daldal sa bahir nikalnay aur mukaharik kernay k liye kuch kerna ho ga)


i hope k mane sahi correction ke ha.
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PARAGRAPH NO 4

Thus hindu-muslim conflict was not merly religious.it was the clash of two civilizations,of two peoples.who had different languages,different literary roots,different ideas of education,different philosophical sources,and different concepts of arts.such a yawning cultural gulf was enough to destroy any affinity which the two peoples might have had and to bring to nought all efforts at unity.when this cultural variance was combined with diversity in social customes and modes of livelihood the emergence of a united indian nationalism was doomed without redemption
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check my urdu translation @farahand hope will not mind it.

Muslamno aur hindo'oo ka ikhtilaf sirf mazhabe bunyad par nae tha .yeh do akwam ke tehzeeb'on ka ikhtilafa tha, jo mukhtalif zaban,adabe ibtada,taleeme nazrae ,falsafey aur ada'b ke ma'khaz me mutazad thein. Is barhty hwe saqafate khaliej ne do akawam ke taraf c ke janey waley ithad ke koshish ko nakam bana dya.is saqafatey ikhtalaf ke tanazar me mukhtalif samajaey sargarmiyan,zindage guzarny ya kamaney ke za'rey me tazad ne mil kar mutahida bharata ke qomi't ko janum lainy ce phely masakh kar dya.
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well farrah that could be a possibility which you mention.why are you asking farrah you have any doubt abut me
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I didn't ask.I said Paper mein spelling mistakes nae ho skteen.type kertay hue ho skti hain.I didn't show any doubt,what made you think so?

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farrah if you dont mind there are few mistakes in ur translation which i pointed out.
1:-un k hoslay passt hain
farrah dont you think its wrong.the correct sentence would be (unka hosla past ha)
Us ka hosla passt hai(singular)
Un k hoslay passt hain(plural)
I used it for plural as per demand of sentence.What's wrong in it?

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2:-aaj tofani selaab ne hamari
you mention two things toofan and selaab is it correct.
Selaab tufani kiun nae ho sakta?ye dekhye;

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3:-unhe mayoosi ki daldal se bahir nikalnay aur mutaharrik kernay k liye hamen he kuch kerna ho ga.

farrah agar is sentence ko is tarha ilkha jaye to thek ho ge(hamen unhe mayoosi ki daldal sa bahir nikalnay aur mukaharik kernay k liye kuch kerna ho ga)
mein ne sirf "he" izaafi likha.isay nikal dain,baqi jumlay mein koi kharabi nae.aur "he" k sath b darust hai. aik baat aur Translation word to word nae hoti.Urdu mein aisa nae lagna chahye k tarjuma kia hua hai.

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i hope k mane sahi correction ke ha.
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check my urdu translation @farahand hope will not mind it.

Muslamno aur hindo'oo ka ikhtilaf sirf mazhabe bunyad par nae tha .yeh do akwam ke tehzeeb'on ka ikhtilafa tha, jo mukhtalif zaban,adabe ibtada,taleeme nazrae ,falsafey aur ada'b ke ma'khaz me mutazad thein. Is barhty hwe saqafate khaliej ne do akawam ke taraf c ke janey waley ithad ke koshish ko nakam bana dya.is saqafatey ikhtalaf ke tanazar me mukhtalif samajaey sargarmiyan,zindage guzarny ya kamaney ke za'rey me tazad ne mil kar mutahida bharata ke qomi't ko janum lainy ce phely masakh kar dya.
Plz check it
Sadia I don't claim to be a learned person so dear I can't comment.The best I can do for you is that I will translate it myself and you may match both
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PARAGRAPH NO 4

Thus hindu-muslim conflict was not merly religious.it was the clash of two civilizations,of two peoples.who had different languages,different literary roots,different ideas of education,different philosophical sources,and different concepts of arts.such a yawning cultural gulf was enough to destroy any affinity which the two peoples might have had and to bring to nought all efforts at unity.when this cultural variance was combined with diversity in social customes and modes of livelihood the emergence of a united indian nationalism was doomed without redemption
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Muslamno aur hindo'oo ka ikhtilaf sirf mazhabe bunyad par nae tha .yeh do akwam ke tehzeeb'on ka ikhtilafa tha, jo mukhtalif zaban,adabe ibtada,taleeme nazrae ,falsafey aur ada'b ke ma'khaz me mutazad thein. Is barhty hwe saqafate khaliej ne do akawam ke taraf c ke janey waley ithad ke koshish ko nakam bana dya.is saqafatey ikhtalaf ke tanazar me mukhtalif samajaey sargarmiyan,zindage guzarny ya kamaney ke za'rey me tazad ne mil kar mutahida bharata ke qomi't ko janum lainy ce phely masakh kar dya.
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Sadia ap ne bila'shubha bohat achi koshish ki mager kuch cheezen ap bayaan nae ker payeen.ap ye dekhye;

chunachay hindu muslim tanaza'a mehez mazhabi nahi tha.Ye do tehzeebon aur do aqwaam ka tasaadum tha jo k mukhtalif zubanen,mukhtalib adbi bunyaden,mukhatalif taleemi nazriye.mukhtalif falsafayana maa'khaz aur mukhtalif aloom o funoon rakhtay thay.aisi wasee saqaafti khaleej in do aqwaam k us lagaao/rabt ko tabah kernay k lye kaafi thi jo shayed kabhi un mein hua kerta tha aur is ki waja se ittehaad k liye ki janay wali koshishen be'sood theen...jab is saqaafti taghayyar ko muasherti rusoom aur rehn sehn k tareeqon se muttasil kia gaya tou mutahidda hindu qaumiat ka zahoor talaafi k bagher he anjaam pazeer hua
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zarori urdu me add(extra word) karen? Me asking thats why! Tagur and wasee nam to pata bt unka use to me bhol gae.lgta he urdu night mare he.and repitition be zarory he unlike eng?
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zarori urdu me add(extra word) karen? Me asking thats why! Tagur and wasee nam to pata bt unka use to me bhol gae.lgta he urdu night mare he.and repitition be zarory he unlike eng?
I think ap mushkil alfaaz ki baat ker rahi ho?hmmm Sadia zaroori nae k mushkil he istemaal kiye jayen mager kuch alfaz ka Urdu mein matlab he aisa hai k na chahtay hue b likhnay paren gay..Misaal k toar pe English mein likha ho "beautiful"..ager ap tarjuma karen tou "khubsurat" se b kaam chal jaye ga...aur chahen tou "haseen","jameel" ya kuch aur keh lijiye..yaani ye ap k paas choice ho gi..Mager..mager...."variance" ka urdu mein munasib matlab aik he hai "taghayyur"(tabdeeli keh skty hain) tou aisay alfaaz k liye ap ko Urdu mein se b bohat munasib sa lafz chun'na ho ga bhalay wo mushkil e kiun na ho.Maqsad examiner pe roab dalna nae..mager jab angrezi ko Urdu mein tarjuma karen tou wo aisa na mehsoos ho k tarjuma kia hua hai balkay aisa lagay jesay ye shusta urdu mein e likha gaya ho...Repetition kerni tou nae chahye.mein ne ker di,mujhe dhayan nae raha..asal mein jumlay mein dam nae lag ra tha repetition k bagher is lye mein ne ker di..ager is k bagher b meaning samjh aa raha ho tou,mat kijye..

ap ko Urdu k lafzon mein diqqat paish aa rahi hai?tou ap aisa kijiye is Dictionary ka sahara lijiye..abi tou papers door hain so ap 10 passages is dictionary k saharay karen,Insha Allah,improvement ho jaye gi
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