My friends,

I do not want to discourage any one but fact is fact. We are trying since 2009 and Insha Allah we will never give up till the matter will be decided by Supreme Court in-case of failure from LHC.

Insha Allah we all friends whether those contributed or not , will achieve great success in our life whether through bureaucracy or by other fields. We all friends are equal motto that is the service of nation and motherland.

Allah has written every person fate before the birth. We are also trying and searching our fate. Hope for the best. Keep motivated to all we are a nation and Insha Allah become a successful nation in future.

" Success is going from failure to failure without a lose of enthusiasm" I will add in this quote more that is with sincerity and with honesty.

@Billa, It was the instruction of LHC that FPSC issued admit card to over aged otherwise FPSC never issue admit card to any over aged.

Decision is depending upon the descretion of court (judges will) no one can predict. We can only hope.

Age relaxation issue is a technical and purely constitutional matter.

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I received information from my lawyer friend that Judge instruct FPSC representative to allow in exam to those person who are over aged after the verdict case will decide. I called FPSC to verify this statement their representative said me that FPSC never allow over aged in any case.

I informed to my lawyer friend why FPSC denying as you told me the judge instruct to FPSC. He replied me let's see if FPSC would not issue us admit card that he will complain it to judge. Now they have received admit card and confirmed me that it happened after court orders. So due to this information I shared with you those information I received from my lawyer friend. One of my friends told me that he did not receive admit card slip and ask suggestion I replied him to contact Rai Ansar he is the petitioner and informed him such information. He will raise this issue.

We are totally relying on our lawyer friends information. I am sharing with you that informations those I received from them. I am not a member of FPSC or any government body.

I shared the number of Rai Ansar and Raees advocate to ask them everything. I also get updates by them. I am not a lawyer I am like you friends just an ordinary person.

I feel sad the allegation raised upon me by my friend Amir Shahid that I was telling lie.

I did my best for this cause and now too much tired. Disturbed my personal life, wasted a lot of time and money on communication and networking since 2009.

Some sincere friends advised me that leave this topic, people never realize you. I always said them I and my friends are trying for the nation's youth. Now sometime I realize that those advisors were right in their place.

Dear friend you may get all information for this case directly from Rai Ansar he is the petitioner in LHC his number is ( 03334902727 ). I will not run campaign for supreme court in case of loss or win. I experienced only minority of applicants are sincere others are spectators and critics though they doing nothing and without knowing the reality only criticizing and find negativity.

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ASIF AMIN

Hello critics and Rithiks! Long time, no see?
I hope you all are doing fine except the hope that is taking the best of you.
Because hope, my friends, is an evil thing. Hope shows us dreams and gives us courage and stamina to follow those dreams even in the presence of contrary evidence and there comes a time when our dream becomes a delusion, an obsession of sorts but by then it is too late to come back to normalcy because a lot of things have changed down the road and then it just hurts looking back and it feels better to remain with the delusion than rationality.
The same has happened to most of the people attached with this cause. We have few practical and many delusional fellows. To get age relaxation we needed only practical fellows to make a plan and act on it: we needed press conferences, letters to editors, contacts with journalists, protests and banners hanging outside of university gates and group visits to the houses of known politicians.
But most of the fellows neither contributed nor did any of those things and still they have been dreaming of getting age relaxation as if it is an apple pie. It is not that easy, age relaxation was clearly rejected by the government twice and it was clearly mentioned in the parliament session that bureaucracy needed fresh blood and not the old people to run the country. Either we were supposed to admit the ground realities or stand for our cause. Still it is not too late to act. If a guy cannot even hang a banner out of his university gate in favour of age relaxation so to spread awareness then what else to expect? Getting age relaxation means changing the mind of president and prime minister, it cannotbe achieved by sitting in front of your computer and commenting and then sleeping and dreaming that you will wake up to the news bulletin of 5 years general age relaxation. I mean get real and snap out of your delusions

Few days back on the 27th february during the National Assembly session Qamar zaman kaira was questioned about the prospect of age relaxation in the css exam to which he replied in a clear negative:

"Replying to a question from MNA Imrana Saeed, Information Minister Qamar Zaman Kaira told the house that no age relaxation was allowed in connection with the CSS examinations."

http://www.pakistantoday.com.pk/2013...-sectors-soon/

Mr. Kaira further told the house that there was no proposal under consideration regarding css age relaxation. That means the high ups never want to relax the age no matter what. And why would they consider relaxing it? I mean they dont even know that we exist, and even if we come to exist for them, our voice is very thin and we are very few so our voice is bound to fall behind their ears. The government takes popular decisions, the ones which involve the majority. Look at it like this: We are against the government on the issue of age limit, we want the government to change its writ, we are challenging the status quo, we want the whole system to change in our favour. A little signature from the principal of an ordinary school costs much, to submit the water and gas bill one has to make a bee line, wait in the summer heat in long queues for a long time. Then imagine what would it take to change the system, to change the very brain of the government?
Do not despair please, i said all those things just to give you a reality check, to wake you up from your delusional dreams and make you act.
Fidel castro, the famous cuban dictator who brought revolution in Cuba says that one can change the whole of the government, all it needs is few practical people and faith and nothing else. So my friends never ever blame the government or the establishment or the Courts for not granting you age relaxation, blame only yourself for not doing enough to make it happen.
In my last words i would like to thank all those who contributed in favor of the cause and who took practical steps to bring a change especially Asif Amin, Last Hope, scorpion king, Omer and others. God bless you

We are trying to wake up the dead despite knowing that it's a futile job.
You people can not spend a few pennies for your own cause and Just imagine about those who have spent their precious time along with a lot of financial contribution. Now when people talk about their moral contribution , we let loose our indignation. Posting on cssforum will not do any miracle. Had it been so, it would have happened five years ago. No protest , No meetings , No fee of lawyer , No media hype , Nothing at all. Just come and watch what's new on this thread. Say loudly that your 'moral' support is with us. You know we are only six people who have contributed financially, morally and practically. And all others are spectators. So we stand nowhere. Without team work , we can't do anything anymore. We are losing our nerves now. We lost our case in Peshawar High Court because we could not arrange funds to hire a lawyer of good repute. Now you wait to repeat the same episode at LHC.
Stay Blessed.......

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Race is not over Bcoz I haven't won yet

Well my buddies I have contributed 25000. And you people are still asking about amounts. Don't you think you are already late?
And now don't rely on courts alone. Collect your money and with the help of Asif Amin do a press conference and give some money to journalists to make a report about CSS age relaxation for Geo and Dawn news. Find new ways to get your voice heard. Dint put all your eggs in one basket. I mean what if LHC give the same verdict as PHC? So better use other channels. Its now or never, you all cannot keep waiting for 3 years more to get age relaxation because life is short. Think about it angry buddies and cool down, I only tell you three truth. The choice is yours, whether to keep waiting for months and years or take the route I showed to you

Hello, Its Shayan from Karachi, I have been following the thread for a long time... I have just made my account
Mystic says : 'Collect your money and with the help of Asif Amin do a press conference and give some money to journalists to make a report about CSS age relaxation for Geo and Dawn news'
you know, the letter on Jang that you saw few months back regarding age relaxation was written by Me. Asif Amin knows me well. I can help you regarding media as far as daily Jang, Daily express, Daily Dunia & the News are concerened, just write a letter & it will be published. I will aslo contribute as I left my job & MBA for the sake of CSS however I will. I told Mr. Asif Amin that I could give 50% discount in press confrence in Karachi Press Club I.e r.s 4000/ as my parents are well reputed journalists. I tried to contact Mr Asif Amin but he told me to contact after exams. Today is my last paper. If you wanna contact me I will be there. I believe we can achieve our goal in no time if we do things PRACTICALLY. looking forward to the response & especially from those who live in karachi as if any practice (confrence etc) happens so I will participate. we need to be FIRM from NOW ON. Cheers!

Can you please let me know that how many people who contributed? as per my knowledge the total fee that AK Dogar asked was 300000/. (as he reduced his fee for this cause). Asif Amin told me that that 150000/ have been givin to him. the remaning amount seems to be 150000. Now how many people are willing to pay & how much we need to pay? how apart from those who only come here to get updates, those who have done PRACTICAL MEASURES or WILLING to do so, have further paid any amount?. One last thing is how many practical members we have apart from this forum I mean there are several people who might not visit sites to check updates but waiting for the decision.

Jahangir khan, as you know that court issues are very complicated so we do not know when will the case get decided. So better would be that now you file a case in supreme court and then we will follow you and ask you about the court proceedings. Makes any sense?

@ Khairi: With due respect i really doubt your sincerity with the cause of CSS age relaxation. If you were honest then just tell us why have not you been doing anything for us despite the fact that you own a personal press? You published just one little letter in an urdu newspaper and you believe you have conquered the world. Man, We have published dozens of letters in he english newspapers and we have contributed more than you. It is very saddening to see someone with so much resources, a printing press and who can book the hall for press conference but still is not taking any concrete step. I ask you where have you been all those months and years while we were here making plans to do a press conference and a protest? It is tragic that you have appeared now and still you are asking us to pay you for the press conference. If you are really honest with us then immediately take some solid step for us and we will follow you. Actions speak louder than words.
Some guys here find me harsh but let me tell you i am being rational. I told you people long ago to quit your hypocrisy otherwise one day you would have to quit your dream of css. The inevitable is here, we lost in PHC and the case is LHC has no good prognosis. You can say we are all hanging in the air upside down without any hope. Everything has gone against us, government rejected us, FPSC rejected us, newspaper editors rejected us, politicians like Yusuf raza Gillani and Kaira have rejected us.
You all are well aware of the corruption scandals of every politician, they have eaten billions, the money of our electricity and gas and phone bills go to the pockets of those politicians sons who are driving Mercedes and BMWs and Accords and yet their daddys do not want to give us age relaxation, they do not want us to study and sit in the exam, they want us to stay down, far below than their staus and rank. They themselves have fake degrees, they do not know how to speak in public, they drink and drive while people of our kind are killed in terrorist attacks and target killings. Yes it is more important for them to attend Sharmila`s function than to sit and contemplate and devise a strategy for the country`s youth.
I see guys elder than myself taking css, just because they had reduced their original birth dates in school. Yes man, everyone reduces their age, they do not consider it corruption, dishonesty. While honest like us have to suffer.
why? Give your answers and do mention what limits you can go to change the system, to get the age relaxation from these black sheep who are eating away at the very fabric of our society.

@Xplodec: I like what you say. Hopefully you will meet A.K Dogar and inform us all about the status and strength of our case. But please do not wait for the PML (N) to come in power because that will take quite some time and they have other issues on their priority list. If they want then they still hold enough power to give us age relaxation in a matter of few days if just once Nawaz sharif shows his will of relaxing age limit.
And let me clarify that it is not the ppp government alone but a strong lobby as well that is the hurdle in css age relaxation. Nevertheless we should keep striving because everything is possible with God Almighty.

@Khairi: I request you to book conference hall with your own money, after all it will cost you only few thousands. Collecting 15 guys should not be an issue for you. You are a student and well connected through your parents with the printing press and media so please get a dozen or two of your friends, neighbours, classfellows and do a revolutionary press conference. That will change many things, above all it will give hope this dying cause of css age relaxation. Asif Amin has done a lot, he is a little fed up now. So now you should take the lead, you must have leadership qualities since you want to become DMG, PSP. I hope you will not waste further time and get it done. Sindh is being victimised, your seats go empty, there are not enough students to take css exam. If you get a chance to appear in css then i am sure you will easily get the post of your choice. A csp post is just a few steps away from you, so doing a press conference should not be a big deal for you. Do not wait for tomorrow because tomorrow never comes