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@ Artemis.

Its not an issue about data entry operators. It is not necessary that all the candidates of css-2009 who have applied for css-2010 will actually appear in the papers. FPSC has done the right thing by asking the candidates, who really want to appear and whose exams and interview dates coincide, to contact FPSC so that their interview dates may be adjusted.
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@ Artemis.

Its not an issue about data entry operators. It is not necessary that all the candidates of css-2009 who have applied for css-2010 will actually appear in the papers. FPSC has done the right thing by asking the candidates, who really want to appear and whose exams and interview dates coincide, to contact FPSC so that their interview dates may be adjusted.
'Who actually want to appear'! Others have applied for fun sake? Then they should wait till 3 or 4 March I think many others may change their mind. This is not a reason, they are supposed to manage all the clashes.

Then why don't they ask all the candidates of 2010 and arrange exams for only those who actually intend to appear? Another right thing as per your theory! This is not about data entry operators this is about a three to four lines SQL query from database they already maintain.
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I agree it could've been done with a single SQL query but I guess they feel more comfortable involving the candidates in the process and sharing responsibility with them....giving tension is govt's job in pak rather than takin it away now it'll create a semi-confuse state with people calling them some worried others might not even find out about the press release

Well I am also confused My interview is in peshawar and the schedule for that is not even out yet so how would I know whether there is going to be a clash or not...genius huh
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@ Artemis.

No offence meant but let me put it bluntly.

In css-2009,
Candidates applied: 9057
Candidates appeared 5707.

So according to your opinion the remaining 3000 something candidates applied for fun sake?

What i mean is that FPSC has not yet issued interview schedule for March, because it will conduct interviews of those candidates in March who don't want to appear in 2010 exam.
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@ Artemis.

No offence meant but let me put it bluntly.

In css-2009,
Candidates applied: 9057
Candidates appeared 5707.

So according to your opinion the remaining 3000 something candidates applied for fun sake?

What i mean is that FPSC has not yet issued interview schedule for March, because it will conduct interviews of those candidates in March who don't want to appear in 2010 exam.
Obviously there is no offense and I know this, such data is published every year. But I think main point here is candidates realize with time that whether their preparation is up to the mark to consume one of their very few attempts or not. Now just one month has passed and still another remaining so I don't think that this stated figure can be filtered out at this time or that the intention actually was to take benefit of the candidates who have changed their mind.
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Shallow water is not so shallow after all, Artemis please read what he said with the intention of excepting, he IS right, and its only sensible and rational. I think his first reply to this thread was sufficient.

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Artemis please read what he said with the intention of excepting, he IS right, and its only sensible and rational. I think his first reply to this thread was sufficient.

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'intention of excepting', I think you mean to say accepting, right? Well I read all the posts with a good intention. Everyone has his/her own opinion and I am no one to accept or reject! You are not bound to accept my views and so am I. Say what you feel like saying as I said so.

And if you want to convince me then convince me with arguments. Like in your post you are just convincing me to get convinced.
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While I do agree with Artemis to some extent, I believe there is no way to do this without the personal involvement of the individuals, FPSC can not on it's own accord, make decisions regarding this.

It may very well be true that I passed CE2009 and applied for CE2010, does not necessarily mean I can not change my mind, or have not already. If they act on their own, without my consultation, it will result in frustration, disappointment and a waste of time.

For those who have applied and also want to appear, it's not a big enough deal to try and find out, give them a call, I am sure this question keeps people checking the latest news from FPSC, as everyone wants to know if exams are getting delayed or not. I honestly believe, it is not something anyone can easily overlook.

Lastly, no agency, govt or pvt, will ever take such decisions affecting you, on their own. Exclusion of liability is the foremost principle, they do not want you complaining and hogging them later on, granted, some agencies call people personally to inform them, but mostly they do not due to certain restrictions.

FPSC uses the printmedia, they place their ads in the newspapers, that is considered sufficient, if you consider, getting something printed in the newspaper suffices even for legal matters, such as changing your name, or summoning someone to a court hearing.
In the case of legal matters, your liability ends after the publication in a major newspaper, hence I do believe FPSC has done the right thing. Thank you for reading.
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@ Artemis.

Its not an issue about data entry operators. It is not necessary that all the candidates of css-2009 who have applied for css-2010 will actually appear in the papers. FPSC has done the right thing by asking the candidates, who really want to appear and whose exams and interview dates coincide, to contact FPSC so that their interview dates may be adjusted.
Now thats ridiculous. I am sorry I m not here to offend you, but they could just use their common sense. They could put both the date into their data base (09 passed candidates and those who ve applied for 2010). Then they shall make a search based either on full names, or NIC numbers, and in this way they would get the common names outa both lists. This would make it evident to them that a particular candidate who has passed in 09 has also applied for 2010 wriiten exam.

If we keep on sticking to the conventional methods, and stay conservative or somewhat afraid of using the computers which are otherwise meant to be used and not just to be put on the tables with flat screens so that it would add to the serenity of their offices, (thats the unfrtunate mindset of all of us),, then there is no chance of improvement.

And we must give importance to worthy suggestions, and negate not just for da sake of objection.
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May be they just can’t understand it the way we do. Like when we go to study Computers they tell us the very first day that we use computers because they produce timely and more reliable information, same data can be put to a number of different purposes and the manual overhead is removed. But they think this overhead is justified as it sounds more ‘responsible’ of FPSC.
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