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I think co education is not supported by Islam. In Islam, boys and girls should not mingle unnecessarily. Considering the co-education system in our country, I can clearly say such co education is not allowed in Islam (visit a university and you'll know what I mean)

If there are female teachers they can teach females and male teachers can teach male(s) however I don't see anything wrong if a female is extra ordinary in some field and delivers lectures to male(s). I think Hazrat Aisha used to deliver lectures too on Islam to men (Please correct me If I am wrong) however there is no good reason for boys and girls to sit in same class and study etc as dr zakir naik rightly says that such things are footsteps of the devil

Question : If co education is not allowed in Islam and constitution of pakistan says that no law can be against Qur'an and sunnah then why are universities allowed to go ahead with co education?
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How much worth the Nappies of babies have? Or Fair and Lovely! Such things are being injected in our lives by a strong Mafia, The Advertisers. So is the case with Co-education. The institutions that fail to deliver quality, attract the students by luring them with such gadgets. One may argue about some benefits of Co-education but harms have more magnitude than the worth. But at the age where one may decide for his own fate, co-education is better than isolated as it decreases the frustration in the society but legal/ethical boundaries must be respected in that case too.
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when we talk of islam, co education system is considered bad not only in our country but in other countries too and an observation does show that.
the female students are more in danger in co education
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Co-education is a broad term, we should focus on the main point that is co-education itself is bad? or the picture being presented by our co-education institutions is prohibited by Islam? studying in co-education has no issue at all, ''BUT'', if all the principles and guidelines given by Islam are strictly followed.In our co-education system, attention of most of the students is diverted from the actual cause, i.e studies and they start exploiting this opportunity, everyone should learn from each other, as males and female students have peculiar intellect and qualities, they should be mutually utilized.Need of the hour is to make the best use of this system, instead of misusing it.
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mano g u r rite that,one should take coeducation in broader sense. To be honest , coeducation in our educational institutions does fulfilling all purposes. irrespective of islam does our culture(subcontinent) allow this system. Why as a nation we are in the habit of emulating west. We have our culture, norms values and ethics. if coEducation cares all fundementals then there is no harm and vice versa.
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Question : If co education is not allowed in Islam and constitution of pakistan says that no law can be against Qur'an and sunnah then why are universities allowed to go ahead with co education?
Benefit of doubt dear . Shari'ah is absolutely silent over the issue and there is no injunction in sources of shari'ah (Quran and Hadith) which explicitly or implicitly (indirectly) proscribes or forbids co-education (Allah maaf kare if I am wrong but I have not been able to find any scholar providing authentic reference from Quran and Hadith which exclusively bars co-education or impels absolute gender segregation no matter what). Islam is very very strict in observation of modesty and Allah (SWT) absolutely abhors fornication and adultery, there is no second opinion about it; but that is a different case, there are ways prescribed in Islam on how to deal with those who conduct immodest act. Most of the modern muslim scholars use the pretext of modesty and analogy of western societies to logically justify their harsh stance against co-education and ordinary gender commixing. During the times of Prophet (SAW) masjid served the purpose of both place of worship and education. Prophet (SAW) himself allowed women to come to masjid even when men were present so this implies that co-education should not be considered absolutely haram in shari'ah; however even Prophet (SAW) were very cautious in observation of ethics and morals to avoid fitna. What kind of fitna Holy Prophet (SAW) envisioned has not been clearly emphasized by the scholars, nevertheless fitna could have been of two logical types, 1. spread of immodesty and 2. medieval arab culture where a mere suspicion over female relative could trigger tribal warfare. Anyways, almost all the religious scholars set their focus on spread of immodesty fitna alone and recently scholars are presenting the scenario of western society as a logical justification against co-education. Schools are relatively modern system of institutionalized education; conditions of Pakistani institutions where predominant number of schools and colleges are single sex exhibit high level of violence, gangs and political activities in boys only institutions of low level education which then continues in universities; not to mention harassment and sodomy which is even noticeable in religious schools (madrassahs), that is a more severe immodesty in Islam. We can blame bad governance and management but issues are of purely social and cultural base like on one hand we see highly unsocial and untoward conduct and attitude of males towards females in our society not only in public places but at homes as well, but on the other hand we see sharp rise in level of secret relationships, number of brothels and women related violence for which we usually blame cell phones and communication technology but not our mindsets which have developed in highly segregated environment . I think the time has come for a debate on pros and cons of every aspect instead of finding religious excuses for cultural connotations. Allah (SWT) has mentioned in the Quran:

يَا أَيُّهَا الَّذِينَ آمَنُوا لَا يَحِلُّ لَكُمْ أَن تَرِثُوا النِّسَاءَ كَرْهًا ۖ وَلَا تَعْضُلُوهُنَّ لِتَذْهَبُوا بِبَعْضِ مَا آتَيْتُمُوهُنَّ إِلَّا أَن يَأْتِينَ بِفَاحِشَةٍ مُّبَيِّنَةٍ ۚ وَعَاشِرُوهُنَّ بِالْمَعْرُوفِ ۚ فَإِن كَرِهْتُمُوهُنَّ فَعَسَىٰ أَن تَكْرَهُوا شَيْئًا وَيَجْعَلَ اللَّهُ فِيهِ خَيْرًا كَثِيرًا
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إِن تَجْتَنِبُوا كَبَائِرَ مَا تُنْهَوْنَ عَنْهُ نُكَفِّرْ عَنكُمْ سَيِّئَاتِكُمْ وَنُدْخِلْكُم مُّدْخَلًا كَرِيمًا
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Well from my point of view Islam doesn't allow Co-education. As there is always the sense of attraction which comes in between male & female as it is put into man's nature by Allah Almighty. Because of which there motive of studying changes from acqiring education to more of sense of attraction. Which distracts them from studying. And the result is quite visible in the Co schools & colleges nowadays. That the youth is engaged in such dis respectful activities and they have forgotten their values.
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If coeducation is a means of education of both sexes without concept of veil(pardah), Islam certainly prohibits it as the very purpose of education is hampered by sensual instincts_thanks to research in psycho dynamics.

However if the source of education is common but there is a segregation(pardah) on the basis of sex then such a coeducation is beneficial rather than harmful.e.g a speaker addressing to university students in a hall with separate seating arrangement for girls and boys.
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I see some logically confused guys and girls giving their own opinion and declaring it to be islamic law ... Those of us who have read islamic law should have made the things easy ... Anyway as for as coeducation is concerned , islam doesn't forbid it directly or indirectly ... All the great scholars of islam taught both the genders and we have the example of Hazrat Ayesha teaching the ashab e rasul ...

as there is no direct islamic law prohibiting the co education , so by no mean you can call it un islamic unless you come up with a direct islamic law ....

Yep people of pakistan have always had some reservations on co education and it was primarily on moral grounds.
There have always been a fear that co education will cause moral deterioration.
But in my humble opinion lack of co education has seeded more social , psychological and moral issues than it has solved ... People of pakistan are more frustrated and prone to social evils than those of developed countries where co education is a norm...

Moreover the purpose of educational system ( co or separate) is to provides quality education to the whole community or county . This purpose can be better served with co education because with limited funds you can't run two good schools in a small village , but if there is one school , it becomes rather easy to improve it's standards...
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as there is no direct islamic law prohibiting the co education , so by no mean you can call it un islamic unless you come up with a direct islamic law ....
People of pakistan are more frustrated and prone to social evils than those of developed countries where co education is a norm...
Although there is no law regarding permitting or prohibiting co-education, but Islam guides us about the limitations and extent of male-female interaction, which is not followed in our co-education system at all (unfortunately, a bitter reality),and frustration is not only visible in our society, but much more in developed countries, women is insecure there, no respect, no moral regulation....so quality education can be provided in every kind of system, whether co-education or isolated one.....co-education itself is not an issue, but the problem lies in its misuse.
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