As i have posted earlier

Still it is shocking to know that you are not convinced. I wonder how can one contradict the Divine Orders and the teachings and actions of Holy Prophet (PBUH) and Sahaba Karam (RA).

@Fatima ali

just answer my one question...

y intermingling is not allowed in masjid e nabvi ( saw ) ?

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@Last Island

Very fine point.

@Fatima Ali
Agar yehi concept har jaga lagaein tou you have to answer my questions (as asked many times to you);

1. A person drinking wine in less quantity, not even sriving in that state, praying to Allah, doing his moral obligations also, STILL HE IS ALLOWED TO DRINK????

2. A female (without any real necessity), saying her 5 times prayers, wearing niqab in normal life, reciting quran is still allowed to do MODELLING/Stage dance? What is wrong? her intentions are right....only to entertain. what is wrong in this?

3. Again same question, what was so great that Allah sent Adam (as) on earth, just because he went near to that forbidden tree? What was werong? Adam's intentions were very clear. Then what was wrong???

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wel bro sorry to say but u seem to have an extremist thought and u r confusing urself,,,,whatever u are saying is obviously weired,not any sane muslim would be drinking and reciting HOLY BOOK togather......dont distract urself bro

its a tradition of the HOLY PROPHET "actions are judged by intentions"
this is the tradition folllowed by all muslims....of all fiqaz....

ALLAH LOVES BALANCE...

@strain
and yes my respected bro,,,one piece of good advice for u
if u r that much against coed,,then dont allow ur children to go there

i think no one would ever give it a cosideration whether coed,,if someone's child gets admission in HARVARD UNIVERSITY OR OXFORD UNIVERSITY....just coz u'll get knowledge from there in a faar faaaar better way than here in any non coed institute of pakistan or anywhere else.....

mybro be flexible in ur thoughts...

Why it could not happen????

1. Practically people are there who do this. Everyone knows. I have personally seen such kind of people. I can swear.

2. Other way, if you say that a person who read Quran, cannot do drink...this is exactly we are talking about. Why he will not drink???? because he knows that it is written in QURAN. It has nothing to do with intentions when it is clearly written in QURAN. Isnt it???? Then why when we qoute from Quran and Ahadith itself regarding the inter-mixing of male/femals, you do not admitt.. what is the problem exactly????

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this is the meaing of arabic words

Say to the muminun that they should lower their eyes
and guard their private parts.
That is purer for them.
Allah is aware of what they do.

Say to the mumin women that they should lower their eyes
and guard their private parts
and not display their adornments -
except for what normally shows -
and draw their head-coverings across their breasts.
They should only display their adornments to their husbands
or their fathers or their husbands’ fathers,
or their sons or their husbands’ sons
or their brothers or their brothers’ sons
or their sisters’ sons
or other women
or those they own as slaves
or their male attendants who have no sexual desire
or children who still have no awareness
of women’s private parts.
Nor should they stamp their feet
so that their hidden ornaments are known.
Turn to Allah every one of you, muminun,
so that hopefully you will have success.

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You have other skies stretching out before you.

free mingling is allowed in makkah coz there is only one khaba where muslims are allowed to do tawaf n no other one..thts the reason for it...

n if there is only one institution for both men n women ( like khaba ) in the world than u can allow free mingling...i repeat IF THERE IS ONLY ONE.


LOLS will u please name the second masjid-e-nabvi we have sorry dude lolz wo bhi tu aik hi hai na….
Aur jahan tak impossibility ki baat hai tuu that’s wrong
Khan-e-kaba k 3 floors hien aik ko women k liyae wakf kar detae.. kiuun nahee kya?
Ya agar mingiling of sexes issue that u seprate time huna chyae tha marduun aur aurtuun ka.. hai na?
Similarly best institutes bhi ika duka hi hien.. for education tu how about that…




secondly, there r women guards at the gates of khana e khana for checking women... even men can see them but just look at there dresses...they r covered from top to toe .. they do there hijab in such a wat tht dere eyes r not even visible...


dear feloow this post proves k agar naqab hut u co-education bhi jaez hai aur yahi mera point bhi hai



Dress code and ethics are the KEY TO ALL THIS DISCUSSION. and ofcourse the CHECK.

If we think there NOTHING can be done to seperate the universities, atleast follow the above guidlines;

a) Seperate the classrooms (OR) have fair seperation in single lecture hall between male and females
b) Conduct strict check on both genders
c) Areas outside lecture halls (canteens, waiting rooms etc shall be seperate)
d) Administration to take care of any Un-islamic function (music shows, fashion shows etc.) not to take place in the institude.

So its not co-education but dress code and ur own moral values……… as in moderen times this is so..




Touching a non-mahram woman is haraam, so men should be careful and keep away from places where women are, turing tawaaf. With regard to touching women during tawaaf and saa’i, if he touches a woman by accident

hope u knw k what actually is the condition does any body keep way?



more over my fellas co-education, if would have been haram it wsnt solely for womn right...?(and let all the rules to be on both of the sexes strans checks and balances direct towards women mostly lols)
so i have A QUESTION WHICH I QUOTED IN MY INITIAL POSTS

IF I WANT TO HAVE PHD IN NUCLEAR SCIENCES FOR HOME COUNTRY OR ISLAM FOR THAT MATTER(intentions can only be judged by GOD) FROM SAY ANY FORIEGN UNI.. will I be Encouraged by Islam or discouraged?


(ISLAM IS FOR THE WHOLE WORLD AND NOTE FOR PAKISTAN ONLY SO KINDLY TAKE THE THREAD AS SO INSTEAD OF STYING IN PAKISTANI UNIVERSITIES)

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All the participants of this thread are requested to give a read to a book titled " PARDA " by molana mudoodi... this book contains some very very shocking information regarding this issue.

this is very short book n will take ur just 2 days to finish n also not expensive.

After reading this book i m sure nobody will be found on this forum advocating free mingling ( Guranteed...)

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molana mudoodi...? yah the one jis k fatwuun k barae mien mufti muneeb ur rehman(MUFTI AZAM OF PAKISTAN) nien kaha...

MAUDDUUUI KA ISLAM.............? YA MUHAMMED(S.A.W) KA ISLAM

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