Sirf slap he nahi,, aik dafa dhandy b khay thy,, aur dhandy k size jintna dhanda mery hath pah ugga tha,


but when ever i was punished unfairly,, i started studies, with more determination, and believe me, when we were in our school, our group consists of 5 girls, and 3 were so notorious in school that even if a leaf fall from tree, we were blamed for it,, once it happened tht a senior complain our class teacher, and our class teacher insulted us a lot, i can never forgot her word,(MUJY LAGTA HY, MAIN BAHT KEENA PARWAR HON )

U know physical punishment banda Bhool jata hy,, but, agar kisi ny mujy mentally torture kiya ho main usko kabhi nahi bhoolti,, Meri teachers ny to aisa slook kiya hoa hy mery sath.........

lakin aisi kam he the,, baqi teacher baht loving and kind thee..


once i returned to my school, and my teacher said me, beta app k session jaisa session, hamain kabhi nahi mila,
i said yeah,, teacher apky jaisa teacher b mujy kabhi nahi mila..


@ marwat, i was so quick in math, k class ma koi b mjh sy pahly problem solve karta tha , to teacher heran ho jati thee, it happened just a few time, when any other student, solve problem before me,, other wise, i was always no one,, i just see the question and tell the answer( practice he baht the).. but unfortunately, i changed my subject in Fsc, and Choose Pre-medical group....

Dear PHARM
sorry I didnt get your point are you saying that physical punishment should be allowed?as you said whenever you got punished you studied more better?

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It's alright Awais, I didn't say that you're blaming anyone, it was just my analysis according to my two experiences, i.e. being a student and being a teacher at the same level. One other reason for this variation in behaviours that I forgot to mention may be the changing patterns of teaching methodologies and development in the latest techniques being followed by young teachers and ignored by seniors. But believe me there are still some senior teachers with whom you enjoy your studies a lot.

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@awais 666

no i m not saying that physical punishment should b allowed in school,

offcourse not, i was saying that in some school, (like mine) students are also mentally torture, which is not good as well, instead it is worsen.

so both punishment should not allowed,

2nd thing i was saying, that, it happened, that one day i was late, as soon, as i reached my class, the teacher was taking oral test of previous lecture, (previous day i was absent). so i didn't know, what's going on in class, teacher say me to stand up, and started test, i got confused,,
i said , teacher i m sorry, i was absent yesterday, so i m not able for test..

upon this my teacher said,, han , mjy tu pahly he pata chal raha tha tumhy kuch nahi ata,, jinhain ata hota hy wo aisy nahi hoty..
koi aur hee bachy hoty hain jinhon ny parhna hota hy,,,,,, wagaira wagaira.

but mera ghussy sy bura hal tha,, issy and that was the first chance, in two years, that i did not prepare lecs.....

so qissa sunany ka maqsad yeh hy k punishment kisi andaz sy hee di jay to hee best rahti hy. otherwise, student hates teacher only, nothing else

salam

yahan ager main QUOTE karnay lag gaya to kafi jaga istimaal ho jaey gi, is liay aisay he keh raha hoon, bulkay poochh raha hoon

zara un lecturers or proffessors kay naam or unki PLACE OF POSTING to bataaeay,

or main un say sawal karta hoon, jo apnay teachers per nukta cheeni kar rahay hain, kay kisi ko gulucose ka formula nahi aata, koi study guide saath lay ker aata hay,

main aap ki baat per 100% to kaya 110% yaqeen kar layta, ager aap un kay students na hotay.



yehi soch ka faraq hay kay aap abhee students hain or woh HIGHLY PAID EMPLOYEE. Ager aap ki baat main wazan hota to, koi to pakistan ka aisa LAAL َ(لعل) hota jo aap ki zahanat say mutasir hota aor aap ko aisay teachers ki jaga replace kar daita.

koi ager aap ko gulucos ka formula nahi bata ta to iska matlab yeh nahi kay usay kuch nahi aata. ya koi math kay question study guide say dekh ker karwata hay to koi musla nahi.

ager aap check he karna chahtay hain, to un say koi step discuss karen, or yehan bataey ga, kay kitni martaba woh fail huay hain apna point clear karnay main.

i think Proffesors (or associate professor or asstt. professor) aisi stage per hotay hain kay ager yeh chhoti chhoti baten un kay zehan main mustahzar (on finger tips) per na bhee hon to koi baat nahi. kyoon kay woh bohat door ka soch rahay hotay hain, bohat deep ka knowledge rakhtay hain.

about their behaiver, hum to aam say students hain. inhi proffessors kay students main say aisay aisay student bhee niklay hain kay jinhon nay dunya main nahi to pakistan main naam paida kiya hay. aap kisi bhee aaj kal kay kisi naamwar (famous) porsanality ko dekh lain, unhaon nay inhi universities say he taleem hasil kee hoti hay,
or yeh baat bhee hay kay, teacher ka kaam sirf guide line dena hay, baqi parha ya seekhna to student ka apna kaam hota hay.

aor yeh jo aap nay comparision kee hay new incumbents of lecturars ki or proffessors ki, aap in new appointed lecturars ko achha keh rahay hain. aap bataen gay kay in dono main say kis kay paas knowledge zayada hay.

or bohat say colleges or universities main to new lecturars to woh he hain, jo apnay inhi senior professors kay students reh chukay hon.
aor aaj kal to yeh rajhaan hay universities main kay jo student 1st division say paas karta hay, usay he next year kuch reasonable amount per hire kar liya jata hay,(as a contract lecturer- co-operative lecturer).

ek khaas baat jo main yehan kehna chahta thaa jiski waja say is thread per main post karnay per majboor huwa hoon

quote: kisi nay kaha kay mairay liay aisay teachers ki izzat karna zara mushkil kaam hay.

pehli baat to yeh kay, koi bhee teacher ho, kisi bhee level ka, usay apnay kisi student say certificate lainay ki zaroorat nahi. doosray, kisi student ko yeh haq kaisay mil gaya, kay woh apnay teacher per (khass ker uski maloomat, teaching) per aitraz karay,

jo shaksh apnay USTAD ki izzat nahi karta, woh shaksh zindagi main kuch nahi seekh sakta.

Hazrat Ali ka farman hay, kay " JIS SHAKSH NAY MUJHAY EK LAFZ BHEE SIKHAYA, GOYA US NAY MUJHAY APNA GHULAAM BANA LIYA" ( yeh mafhoom hay, shayed koi ghalti hui ho mujhay say to maazrat).

main phir dawat dayta hoon, kay aap apnay aap ko prove karen, aisay teachers say behtar. main aap ko un teachers ki jaga replace kar wadoon ga. ager replace na karwa saka. to media main is issue ko zaroor uthaa doon ga. kay kisi university main students , apnay senior proffessors say zayada genious hain.

Plz aap say request hay, kay apnay teachers ki izzat karna seekhen. or yeh yaad rakhen, un ko yeh post (designation) plate main rakh ker nahi mila. unhon nay mehnat ke hay, aor prove kiya hay, kay woh is SEAT kay qabil hain. ager aisa nahi hay, to aap log kyoon css ki tyari kar rahay hain, aap main say bhee bohat say kaheen proffesors, ya kuch or post per jaen gay, to kaya ager koi ek point aap kay zehan main na aaya (gulucos kay formulay ki terhaan) to kaya aap ko bhee us waqt NA-EHL kaha jaey.


behaviour say yad aaya: kay professors ki yeh bay rukhhi students ko kitab kholnay ka jawaz bhee farahum kar ti hay.


اللھ تعالی ہمیں اپنے اساتذھ کی تعظیم کرنے کی توفیق عظا فرمائے ۔ آمین

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hey dear habib rahat

your behavior is going a little bit childish if you are saying we are pointing out we have not took any name or blamed any person you are trying to be a over confidence or extra efficient person here so please hold your words because you are insulting PHARM around here and it is undeniable highly paid employee can be the owner of business also do he needs any qualification for that? dear the difference is in your thinking you are thinking logically but reality is more bitter then logics come out of the books and try to see the things happening around and i think you should apologize to PHARM for your behavior and if you are saying that professors dont take these small things seriously i would say that then they are not meant to have those PHDs of M.Phils because communication is the thing on which this universe is existed and if we are trying to tell teachers by students point of view that they have this negative point you shouldnt take it negative dont you think the points raised by us are correct? dont you think in friendly atmosphere student can study more efficiently ok leave that i am giving you another example if teachers or professors comes to a class and students go rude on him and dont even respond to him on anything how would he deliver his lecture? this is called communication gap between them and when they interact with each other they can easily solve the problems of students and sometimes students can solve the problems of teachers

i would also ask you one thing what does our islam says about it?shouldnt professors share there knowledge with us??

I have met a professor 6 months ago and i respect him alot and believe me whenever i was with him i always learned something from him because of his friendly behavior with me

and i would request you to apologize to PHARM and I am apologizing for my behavior also

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IF english teacher don't know, how to spell word, than i will say, that, he is not good teacher,

If math teacher brings guide with him in class than i will say, tht he is not good teacher,

if bio sciences' teacher don't know , the glucose formula, than i will say he is not good teacher,

The person who don't know the basic of his subject, how can he teach the higher chapters or topic,

in biochem, glucose formula used almost in every lectur. and it is not only upto me, that i m not giving respect to my teacher, but the whole class has the same view.. He is not able to satisfy even A SINGLE STUDENT..

Bhaiya, step kya discuss karny hain. once it happened that he was delievering a lecture, and lecture was about biological cycle. he takes help from notes, during lecture, he goes out of the class, some student turned the page over. and put the paperwait on another page,

Do u know what happened after that, he started the lecture from that page which was in front of him,, mean he don't know what he was teaching..
CLEAR..

NOW,yeh it happend, but these teacher r so sticky, that thy love to avail the extension facility, rather to leave a seat for youngesters..

kisi ny nahi, my dear yeh main ny kaha hy,, and the simple reason of it is that, i have met some teacher in my life, who are acadmy in his personality, I will like to mention the name of my honourable teacher.

MAM' RAZIA, was my favourite teacher, she was so kind and loving, that she always encouraged student to ask Question, and clear their concept, once it happend tht i asked Question about valancies of some formula, which was not satisfing the condition,
She said , i don't know, but i will try to find answer.
next day i asked again, her answer was same.
next day , her answer was same
and finally, she said, sorry i was not able to find answer..

I said.. ok teacher ,,no problem, i will find answer through another mean,,

I KNOW, that teacher are human being, but they should satisfy the most of class, though not 100%

one of my another teacher, who used to teach us whole subjects of matric, ( I think it rarely happend that a single teacher has command over all subjects..) and he tought us so nicely, that we often got 73 out of 75 without any reading..( i m not joking) seriously
He often used to say,, main uss ko ustad he nahi samjhta, jo english parha saky, chemistry na parha saky, jo islamiyat parha saky, pakstudy na parha saky,,

My another teacher was Sir Mahmood,(also my uncle) he was master in math, and his mathod was so interesting , that their student was also master, i have previously said that, i saw question, and tell the answer, without solving. ( i never say him uncle, alway say sir)
and this is a fact. he was very kind on me,
but i was not as serious , as he wanted, He often say to me,

Saira board top na kiya to main, tumhaara gala daba don ga, and i replied. leave it sir, main ny board nai top karna, yeh bary laiq bachon ka kam hota hy, aur main itni laiq nahi hon..
and he said,, nooo, u can, i said.. ohhhhhh noo sir ,,, i can't

Similarly, Sir SUHAIL. who is a chemistry teacher, and he is so intelligent, k basssssssssssssss,
i have never seen, such a dedicated and honest teacher,, He always says,, bacho koi maza nahi atta agar ap Question na karo..
Sometime he got angry over it that, their student is not asking any Question,,

i m not able to appreciate Sir suhail, even sir mahmood says, k suhail jitna dedicated banda main ny ajj tak nahi daikha,

Sir suhail, is such a personality, that whenever he is delivering lecture, he is totally in chemistry life, and wants that his student also accompany him,,


and my dear jin teacher ki ma ny bat ki hy, all these belongs to my village, no one is master degree holding from abroad, all they have been student in pakitani universities,

But the difference is in their behaviour,. i m not asking that professors in universities, don't know anything,, May be he know all and everything,
but if there knowlege is beyond our approach, that what benefit we have from there knowledge,,
so i find it difficult to have respect for these teacher..

not all teachers are bad in uni,, some are very very good and nice,, they help us lot in the relevant subjects..

In pakistan, Doctors, engineer, pharmacist, have a place in society, but when they go abroad, no one consider their application, u know why,, becoz they are well fimiliar, from our educational system, in which if a chapter consists of 8 topic, teacher will say that only 4 are important, among these, we will study only 4 topics,, and at the end, he tought only 2 topic fromt these selected 4

@ habib Rahat

I think you should be satisfied now and just wanted to tell you that we are in Discussion Zone not in a debate zone so please make discussions not debates you should give us useful suggestions that if a teacher is not correct how should we understand? so please focus on the topic, issues, suggestions and new ideas as you did in Are we Muslims topics it was quite acknowledgeable post from you in which you provided nice information and yes i respect all of my teachers that and i would also like to tell some names below

Sir Abdul Razzaque Abro from 6th class to 10th class ( he also punished me but his method of teaching was very nice and whenever i meet him i touch his feet with respect )
Sir Shahnawaz Bhutto ( he was the most strict teacher of our school but believe me everything told by him was that much clear that we dont have anything remaining to Ask )
Sir Babu
Sir Azhar Rind
Dr.Rajab Ali Memon
Miss Fiza Qureshi
Miss Iram Shaikh
Miss Sadaf Rind
Miss Sobia
Sir Syed Zahoor Shah
Prof. Mushtaq Mirani
and many more like them few of them are not teachers of any institutions but i have learned alot from them in my real life

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Well said, impressed
ADDING IN MY SIGNATURES for short time period.

pointing out these things are not negative, but insulting teachers (he doesent know anything what he transfering to his student) is not only negative thinking as well as Our Relegion doesent allowed for.


IN SHORT

MAAN BACHAY KO DOODH US WAQT PILATI HAY JAB WOH ROTA HAY.

does a mother not love her (beloved) child? answer is " She does"

but think, if a child got feeding all the day, does he ever realize the importance of feeding.

most of us (myself) should also realize the importance of water in the Month of Ramdan (even knew better, but i am talking about realize).

do you think, those proffessor transfer all his knowledge in a plate. (a student dont need any toil, hardworking )

I think teacher should only give guideline, and we (students) must find out the reasons what effect behind the screen, and then consult with our teachers wether we are in right dimention or in wrong.

Islam only say to spread knowledge. its up to a person how he provide his knowledge in a best way.

in this regard, decision taken by me is preserved and will be disclosed soon as waiting for mor comments.


do you courage PHARM (as well as other students) to insult their teachers like above.

I did'nt critisize on pointing the above discrepencies out. but always do critisieze on insulting teachers

tell me one thing " does PHARM have any kind of authority to say about teacher's (lecturars, proffessors etc)'s abilities?"


and those 2 points, about that you awarded me LIL BIT CHILDISH are only critical remarks (taunt)


شاید کھ تیرے دل میں اتر جائے میری بات

@ Dear Owais

Friend, you also taught me one thing.

you made me known that myself cannot convey my words (point of view) to others.


considering seriously about it

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