American from consulate kills 3 in self-defence? - Page 3

imbindas · #21 Friday, January 28, 2011

:@Fnoor
afghans must be thankful to America as they get rid of the most inhumane regime of talibans.and on the other hand Iqris should also thank America as they get rid of most meriless dictatorship.

Fnoor · #22 Friday, January 28, 2011

@IMBINDAS

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:@Fnoor
afghans must be thankful to America as they get rid of the most inhumane regime of talibans.and on the other hand Iqris should also thank America as they get rid of most meriless dictatorship

Why only America poked her nose in above why not other countries?

Why this so-called superpower does not play her role for Kashmir & Palestine?

Silent Spectator · #23 Friday, January 28, 2011

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Originally Posted by imbindas

:@Fnoor
afghans must be thankful to America as they get rid of the most inhumane regime of talibans.and on the other hand Iqris should also thank America as they get rid of most meriless dictatorship.

Assalamulaikum,
Brother remember, Allah himself says in the Holy Qur'an" Jews and christians can never be the friends of yours(Muslims), until you leave your Deen and accept theirs"..Al-Qur'an
They have not relieved the innocent muslims of these countries rather they are promoting terrorism.

I have noticed, the majority of new members deviate from the Topic sentence, now here the topic was of the incident of killings by an American diplomat,but the members are attacking each other's comments.

And Riazuddin, you shall hold your horse, and i don't see the spirit in you of being a Muslim. why are you mingling the 295-c with this incident???

Salute to the administration for.........!!

REgards

imbindas · #24 Friday, January 28, 2011

Fnoor bro r u kidding? dont u knw the history of palestine & kashmir ?
kashmir (azad & jammu) was officially a part of india according to the pact signed by mahraja ,but in 1948 pakistan army and pashtoon attacked and snatch half part of it,called Azad kashmir. kashmir is not our problem.we should thank international community that were spectator on this unique kind of robery.people of jammu kashmir didnt want to be a part of pakistan,they want there own state.
about the Palestine,u have to get bak to the history?u must hav the knowledge of how Israiel came into power.i would suggest you to go through history,then u wont complain.
Regards

MAA_LLM · #25 Friday, January 28, 2011

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Originally Posted by mhmmdkashif

First of all, was he a civilian diplomat or a Navy SEAL, or Green Beret kind of diplomat??

well put dear!

Rixwan · #26 Friday, January 28, 2011

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Originally Posted by Riazuddin5

Why should I remember Afia Siddiqui - the terrorist drama queen, and the image spoiler of Islam and Pakistan? What does she has to do with this? meri jooti ki nook Doctor Afia Siddiqi...

Why do you want to compare United States with Pakistan? In Pakistan, we witch-hunt innocent people on pagan laws like 295-C and then glorify the murderers, United States is not a witch-hunter country. there is atleast some semblance of common sense and justice in US, compare Pakistan with other illiterate and oppressive countries - the category that we belong to.

I have strict objection on using Pagan and 295 C in this respect....u at one end saying that what America did was right and what our people did is wrong...who are u to decide that....u(or we) dont even know correctly what was the real reason behind the case of Dr. AAfia Siddiqi(as we all know only what our funded media showd)...and u just declared her terrorist, drama queen...its really bad....

i dont understand in which world u r living that u dont even think before speaking/writing....

tknw01 · #27 Friday, January 28, 2011

"Let not the believers take for friends or helpers unbelievers rather than believers; if any do that, in nothing will there be help from Allah; except by way of precaution, that ye may guard yourselves from them." (3:28)

"Believers, do not make friends with any but your own people. They will spare no pains to corrupt you. They desire nothing but your ruin. Their hatred is evident from what they utter with their mouths, but greater is the hatred which their breasts conceal." (3:118)

"Believers, do not seek the friendship of the infidels and those who were given the Book before you, who have made of your religion a jest and a pastime." (5:57)

"Thou seest many of them turning in friendship to the unbelievers. Evil indeed are (the works) which their souls have sent forward before them (with the result), that Allah's wrath is on them, and in torment will they abide. If only they had believed in Allah, in the Prophet, and in what hath been revealed to him, never would they have taken them for friends and protectors, but most of them are rebellious wrongdoers." (5:80–81)

MAA_LLM · #28 Friday, January 28, 2011

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Originally Posted by imbindas

Fnoor bro r u kidding? dont u knw the history of palestine & kashmir ?
kashmir (azad & jammu) was officially a part of india according to the pact signed by mahraja ,but in 1948 pakistan army and pashtoon attacked and snatch half part of it,called Azad kashmir. kashmir is not our problem.we should thank international community that were spectator on this unique kind of robery.people of jammu kashmir didnt want to be a part of pakistan,they want there own state.
about the Palestine,u have to get bak to the history?u must hav the knowledge of how Israiel came into power.i would suggest you to go through history,then u wont complain.
Regards

I am surprised and really disappointed by your comments dear, I think you misread the history!
If your reason of accepting Kashmir as part of India is accepted on the basis that it was before partition part of India, then wht about Pakistan???
and Y U just go back to partition then move on and see the time before british ocupants came herre, Muslims were the rulers for not years but CENTURIES, and they brought so much prosperity to the India and people here. and not only prosperity but also they relieved the people of this area from darkness of misconceptions and showed them the right and true path to success in the form of Islam.

So, IF even you want to decide the matter on your reason, its our right, historically, naturally and on the basis of Islamic teachings that Kashimir is to be freed and and our Muslim Brothers and sisters be freed from the tyranny of India.

As far as Palestine is concirned, where was Israel before 1948??? You will not find any state of such name or charactatr before that, it was all britishers' conspiracy and help which brought the jews in our Palestine and make them able to capture our Holy Land. Though Muslim leaders' negligence was alos there, but mainly it was due to the efforts of Britishers. (The Tyrants)
If you go through the history you will find that Jews were even not allowed in christan countries but muslims allowed them to live in their cities, but as it is in the nature of jews they always bite you when they get a chance, so did they.

Palestine was, is and will remain a Muslims' Land, and our 1st Qibla is there!
How you can deny that???

MAA_LLM · #29 Friday, January 28, 2011

Well it is not only sad but shamefull that we have become so waek and coward that we cann't even register a FIR AGAINSt that ______ US "counselt person".

There are many points and circumstances that lead us to believe that this is not a Robbery case as potrayed by US ambessy and our under pressure and coward government and authorities.

1. Why that David, the terrorist, moved in private car and without informing the authorities?

2. Where he was heading at that time of peak hours??

3. Why he was carring weapon with him without permission?

4. Why he opened fire without provocation and reasonable threat (which is pre-requsite of claiming self defence under law)??

5. Lets suppose , if the killed boys had had threatened him, why one of them got all bulets from behind?? If he would be threatening him he would be facing David at that time, and if David say that the boys tried to flee, then Why he opened fire on them when they are on the run??? As in this case he has no self defence plea.

6. Why, Why, David, the terrorist, after killing them got out from his car and got the killed ones ("the targets") photographed??? Isn't it look suspecious? Was he trying to get a proof of their death??? if yes for whom and why???

7. If he (david) is a simple diplomatic "technicle advisor" as US ambessy said, then howcome he spoke urdu at the scene, keeping in view that he came in Pakistan last month. (As per Media Report). Americans usually don't learn Urdu, and specially a low rank "technicle advisor". Was he trained and sent here to develop some "private relations" specially keeping in view his "private movement" and to do something under diplomatic cover?

8. As per a report he came Pakistan last month on a visit visa, I repeat VISIT VISA, so when did diplomats started travelling on visit visas???

9. Lastly, if boys were armed, and threating him, how david able to kill both instantly without giving both of them time to react??? afterall he is a simple "technicle advisor". if boys were threating him and showed arms, why neither of them able even injured him, when they are facing him and would be ready, and on the other hand he (David) has to draw his weapon out then aim and then both of them. CAN A SIMPLE "TECHNICLE ADVISOR" CAN DO THIS OR A SOME SPEAIIALY TRAINED (MAY BE MARINE OR MERCENARY)???

Thses are the few points till now, which lead us to believe that its not simple "failed robbery" case, there is somethimg serious behind this incident!!!

Now the task is of our authorities to show courage and will and make this terrorist a example for the other diplomats who consider themselves above the Pakistani Paeople. This is also a chance to start reviving our lost indignity as a country and nation and and opertunity to revive the courage and pride in the nation...!!!

sumair shah · #30 Friday, January 28, 2011

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Originally Posted by Rehan Mehmood

Dear bindas, as least do not salute him, as its just initial report that he took this step in his defense, first it doesn’t mean that any foreigner can carry a loaded gun with him, and shoot if he face such attempt.

Here, question arise, that what allows any foreigner to take gun with him, and,
if he is diplomat, why, he didn’t ask government to protect him, or provide him any security?

Foreigner is not allowed to take gund wid him.. but wat abt locals carrying guns, killing ppl but never arrested...???

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