In my opinion Saudi government fears any mob gathering that may turn violent and thread the autocratic government as was the case in other Arab countries. Any kind of protest is strictly prohibited there. If they had allowed it on this occasion it might have turned against the government too as it is a very "faithful friend" of USA, as well as has ever been crushing democratic liberties of people.

@ hassan

Even if it was a stunt to raise the oil prices, it was a bold step by a Muslim country at that time which the Americans have not forgotten till today ! Is there any Muslim ruler in today's world who can show such a courage ?

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In Saudia we cannot gather people otherwise simply the sentence of death..You cannot run Networking Companies,cannot make political parties,your social groups etc etc...
Its all to avoid any treachery against Govt...

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So where is Democracy which is the essential part of Islam ?

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Ya, raise oil prices now in the middle of such a fragile economic environment and push the world into another huge recession? Unlike you, the Arabs obviously don't want the armies of the world on their doorstep.

You can pull off this stunt only once and can't keep the embargo in place for too long. The US spends almost 1 trillion per year on defence so that its army can defend national interests, not sit around on their ass.

Hahaha. US can easily save one trillion $ every year and can spend it on its homeless population, if only it change its foreign policy a little.

Btw, many Arab countries want US forces at their door to protect them.

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Saudi is not just a kingdom, its our center of gravity. Dumb fat cowardly Americans will then have to face 1.4 billion suicide bombers. Their trillion$$ won't help, it will just make 710 (trillion/1.4 billion=710 ) per bomber . They can wipe their asses with trillion$$ bills .

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The US is where it is because it has maintained a strong defense. Otherwise Britain would have destroyed them in 1812 and there would be no Americans, homeless or otherwise. Please go and read some history. On a side note, the Canadians did manage to burn the White House to the ground in 1812 :P


The presence of US forces is a double edged sword, as you know very well, I'm sure.

Haha, take away Saudi money today and see the suicide bombers deflate! Killing innocent people in markets and fighting the American army proper are very different things my friend. These so called jihadis will tell their sons to terrorize the local people, but they won't ever send them to face the Americans...

And anyways, we will protest against an American attack on Saudi Arabia with burning down Lahore and Karachi

Nope, its not so like that... When it comes to protection of holy cities Muslims are no longer materialist like Americans who only hold money and freedom holy. Americans will think a trillion times before taking any military action on Saudi .. Even someone as lazy as me will not stay home when Makkah and Madina are in distress.

Defeating English with the help of French in mainland America is different, defeating infuriated Muslims gathered in the desert from all around the world to fight holy war for protection of holy cities is wayyyyyyy different.. This is something no one has dared to do in history.

If you have read the history enough, you would also be aware that cost of helping Americans was one of the main reasons that triggered revolt against Louie in France.

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Your confused buddy, that was the American war of independence. I'm talking about the war of 1812 where the Americans and the British fought to a stalemate (the British won decisively on the sea, but couldn't repeat their successes on land). The Americans tried to attack Canada, but the attack was repulsed and Washington was burned to the ground.

Why do you assume that the Holy Cities will be destroyed in a war with America? They weren't when the Ottomans took control. Saudi Arabia and the Holy Cities are not one thing. I'm sure you know that they have changed hands various times in the course of history. And id Saddam hadn't faced any opposition in the First Gulf War, he would have dared to attack Saudi Arabia in a couple years!

And BTW, lets imagine that the US conducts bombing runs over Saudi Arabia and uses missiles to target civilian as well as military areas, but doesn't actually put any boots on the ground. What will Muslim countries do, then? Will they gather in Riyadh and protest?