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I'm not sure how reform can come from within the system, because as long as a system benefits those who are part of it, why change? So reform can't come from within the ranks of the CSP and as inept as our politicians are, it would be insanity to expect any reform from their side.
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let me explain the term civil disobedience.....u must have heard the word "government servant".. sarkari nokar jese kehte hain.. the accurate word for them is "civil servant"... govt is a pillar of state..hakumat jese kehte hain..jo change hoti rehti hai democratic states may.....so civil disobedience in countries like pakistan is far different from government disobedience...matlab state se nafarmani na k govt se..in other words, it is "baghawat".... however, the term is used is western world with a slight difference.. the reason is that there is no difference between state policies and govt policies in western countries.. but in pakistan, it is not like that..state policies are different from govt policies.. so if u start civil disobedience in western countries, it doesnt matter....but in pakistan it matters.....now i am asking IK whr is ur march BHAI ...at WASHINGTON OR AT ISLAMABAD..
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By the way I didn't mean just 'politicians' by elites. Elites would be all those who hold any influence
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Sheikh rasheed denied the allegation.....he said even he did n't know about the ImRan's civil disobedience call
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BTW, your signature is true. I've become somewhat disillusioned with democracy over the past couple years.. |
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BTW I don't mind confessing that even traditional Islamic order eventually failed to keep check on excesses of the elite, and perhaps it's taking a whip for that
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People have started taking actions to show civil disobedience. A friend of my friend refused to pay the tax of Rs 424 in a restaurant and expressed this on the bill receipt. The image is now circulating at fb am0ng my friends.
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An anchorperson asks a person in PTI's protest; "what would happen, if Nawaz resigns?". He answers; "IK would become PM". The anchor asks; "then?". He answers, blushing; "then what?". He asks another person, and again the same answer with a difference that the second tells about one of his complaints for electricity which he registers online, and in the evening the respective head reaches him and solves his problem in KPK. After declaring civil obedience, questions were asked from the participants, but none knew, what it really was, and how to act accordingly!. What they do know is that their leaders are standing there and whatever they say, regardless of its authenticity and applicability, they will act upon.
After seeing this, I only say that we all are personality worshipers, in politics. Whatever, the leader say, we act upon, putting aside the concerns to the country. Truly, flock of sheep, driven by a shepherd, to wherever he likes!. |
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