Ya lets see, maybe we'll live long enough to see these changes in the Muslim world

One of the major things is shun superstition and start respecting science. You see Christianity always resisted science, but it survived under it. Muslims must stop this non-sense thinking 'science takes U-Turn and we cannot believe in it' (I often get to hear it from people ), science doesn't want you to believe in it, it just wants you to trust it . It must be realized that religion is not just for power and politics, it has a bigger purpose and cause which cannot be understood without 'observation and experimentation'; and if observation is limited by 'dogma' then you will never be able to see 'beyond your noses' . The biggest achievement of liberalism is to allow science. Liberalism or no liberalism; without science Muslims will never be able to shape their politics and societies in modern times.

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IK wants to be the PM. This is the crux of the whole situation.

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Exactly! Ya I've heard this argument too, that science can change etc, but I fail to see how this is a bad thing; this is science's biggest strength! The very problem with religion is that it can't change with a changing world. I agree with you 100% that without science, there is no hope of survival!

What Imran Khan is doing is above the spirit of constitution, against the democratic norms, in-proportionate vis-a-vis the sins of Mian sab, and would definitely not lead to either a true revolution or a genuine systemic change. But, since he has the guts to think and try the impossible, let it be, as this land of the pure is a political circus anyway. He and his followers deserve this chance much more then other political pygmies. The soldiers don't seem interested in ousting Mian sab, but they do want to cut the PML down to size, thus making it more amenable to their demands regarding security-policy and release of Musharraf. Nothing would have happened if Mian sab were a little more shrewd and a little less paranoid. IK know nothing of politics and statecraft, but dare to go for everything and anything owing to his perseverance and charisma. Our politicos have all the Machiavellian qualities except the said two. As for the genuine revolution, honestly speaking, this very system and the collective psyche of its people are tailored for either mobocracy or monarchy. If a few people led by IK have set out to change the system, all respect to them, even if they fail. I personally would prefer and appreciate the dreamer who lost over the mean realist who won !!!

yes you are right
political crisis increase day by day in Pakistan
and you are right pak army not interested in this all situation but our leaders just pulling the country towards martial law.

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TUQ wants to be Khomeini

IK wants to be Mouseytung


But both are a false fantacies, puupets, jugglers and jokers