can any one in current pms kpk training batch will plz tell that now when their training iz nearly ended , how different groups are allocated to pms officers,i mean on what criteria the posts are distributed ,waz it based on initial merit plus training period evaluation and tests etc.and what iz the merit of different groups in decreasing order in this particular pms batch which iz just going through training in kpk.thanks

wamik ,what does it means as u said that (how many people left the training of pms uncompleted without coming back,?does it means that there are some people who leave pms training without any solid reasons i mean without joining css ,what may be the other reasons of leaving pms training incomplete,can u plz discuss what u meant by that point or post.thanks

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what is difference between css dmg group and pms dmg group?

DMG belongs to APUG; its mean they could be posted everywhere in pakistan. Further the promotion rate is rapid in DMG. Rest, everything is same. Both pms and DMG officers are posted in fields as well as in secretariat and both are inducted in BPS-17 and retire in BPS-21.

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It is said that there were people who just didn't join PMS training or in other cases left it incomplete Because they already were doing govt jobs for example Lecturership in public sector university. However, I am not so sure that is why in my previous post I wrote

Anyone who knows for sure:
is the training completed?

What was the exact number of trainees?
how many left the training without completing it and never came back? ( their future as PMS officers)
how many were late joiners?( their names were not present in the original list of appointees but they were from amongst the qualifiers?

I really want to know abt those who had qualified every part of PMS Exam (written, psychological, interview) Yet they were not appointed but wr provided with a letter that stated that " although you have qualified the PMS exam but due to Zonal Allocation and Limited seats, we regret that your name is not going to be recommended for appointment".
I mean they should hv bn appointed in place of those who due to any reason hd left the training, Right???
You know Even today after more than a year, the list of the PMS 2011 written qualifiers is there on the KPPSC website.

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i am one of those who qualified all of da above but was not recommended.

yes dear there are in hundreds like u.
Didn't u make any effort to obtain a seat?
Wud u like to share ur PMS marks of both (written interview).
And what ws ur merit number.

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the pont which wamick made was that there are some people who already working as grade 17 officers in other departments ,and who after qualifying pms ,do not leave their previous jobs and instead prefer their other grade 17 jobs on pms job,especially in kpk and baluchistan .Are there some examples of these cases ?this gives way to another door of discussion ,which is (whether pms iz superior than all other grade 17 permanent jobs,other than css jobs ),like lecturerships,engineers,supervisors of various departments of 17 scale direct recruitment,drug inspectors,veterenery doctors,medical officers,civil judges,lecturers of govt colleges,universities,technical colleges,entamologists,geologists,assistant directors,education officers .accountants etc.please further discuss this point with solid reasons.this is a useful discussion as most of the pms qualified people already have some or the other jobs,several of them are working already as 17 officers on regular basis in other departments.special emphasis on environment of kpk and baluchistan where there is a tough time for pms officers due to law and order situations.thanks

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Mashallah. You have a detailed knowledge about the posts and their salaries.
I am in Ministry of Communications in BS-17 but still missing PMS.

don't know why? what you would like to say for me.

please
regards
yousafzia

1. training is going to complete on 23 Nov of this year.(mentioned in earlier post)
2.two groups. Secretariate, provincial DMG
3.posting is based on merit + first Personal Evaluation Report
4.No merit in different groups, people belong to FATA will most probably be posted as APA, while others as DDO(R), DDO(F), public safety commission, TMO, Section Officer, ACO, etc

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