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I was once active member of forum but it is the callous attitude of some seniors which refrain me from contribution
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There is no complete freedom of expression in Pakistan, you may be penalised very strongly for expressing views that are deviant from the popular discourse and if those views have any western/liberal/secular/progressive connotations or even the bitter truth in them, then thats it. This is the sorry state of affairs of our beloved country, it pains me greatly but highlighting these things is the ultimate form of patriotism in my opinion. We hate waking up from a cosy bed in a cold morning, but it is important to wake up and face the world. Anyway, I am not an excellent person or good at English (just an average guy) but yes, I failed in English Essay and Islamiat, my aggregate marks were also below 50% (even if I had passed Essay and Islamiat).
Your example came readily to my mind because you were on this thread. I have not been very active contributor to this forum, but I have been observing DMC's and different discussions for the last few year. There is no doubt that your English is much better than an average person.

Similarly, few mods(not last island) of this site also fall into this category. Not sure about their opinions, but their English is much better than majority of members.
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I'm sorry to say but some of comments in this thread perfectly corroborate my reason of leaving this forum. I surely had no specific person on my mind while writing these comments, if anyone related himself than it is none of my fault. I was talking in general perspective, I have been here for last 5 years and have seen many members come and leave, there are only few members whom I still remember. Those who have been defensive and apologetic in this thread, it is their self proclaimed guilt, I don't think they are that important that I would think about them even, let alone remember them.

Furthermore, my concerns have been shared by few other senior members as well. About the value of my opinion on thesis statement or other aspects of Competitive exams, I just want to say demonstrated proof is more valid than any other theory or opinion. You keep asking for proofs and I have tested what I believe in and I know it works, that's it! If you think what you think is right, just do one thing: Perform. Nothing silences your critics better than performance.

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I didn't read all your posts but did read your first reply to Mr Bilal.
I was goddaman sure about this, anyways don’t prolong such discussion.

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Let me tell you one more thing, Academies and many people here would tell you that writing your personal opinion backed by argument would fetch you good marks in CSS. I openly challenge that assertion.
Another stereos, I am neither the by product of academies nor I got assisted from any csp. Don’t worry, my mentors have even serious reservations on fpscs standardized syllabus.

Enjoy good party.

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In CSS, there is only one kind of opinion that has the potential to resonate with every kind of checker. And I would rather write an opinion of a qualified CSP with 13th merit, than you.
hunnn!
First of all nobody has called you to follow ma bad piece of advise, secondly,
Do tell me than what is the difference b/w you and a madrassah type student .For your info I’m not dying for this css, I just fulfilled my teachers promise and that’s it.
In my world, there is no place for headless chicks.(I am not referring to you)

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@kingfalcon is an example of this. @kingfalcon sahab please correct me if I am wrong in having this impression that you failed despite having good opinion and english.
Have there been such a system than why I should lament someone .
Yeah, i already read the story of this nice and competent guy.Hence know better than you!
But again morality and rationality bhy kssy cheez ka nam hota he that doesn't exist in FPSC bazar.
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If we were not waiting for the 2015 result, honestly, I wouldn't have even bothered to waste my grey matter responding or engaging with anyone on this forum.
Do tell me, did you give the css another chance?
I believe machiavellis like Mackinder used to lie in the cold war era, and how communist were radicalized is another question that bugs ma mind so much. I hope you would like to debate on this.(DO you know what was the prospective meaning of this word really is!!!)
Lets start a new topic of discussion right now.

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@ ursula, love i say this with complete respect and in order to help you achieve your goals in passing the css exam. Thesaurus say rattay na maaro. Learn where to use what word and abstain from verbosity. They will definitely fail you. Big words do tend to give a significant impact, but they need to be coupled with proper sentence structure and their place of usage needs to be defined.
Mr. Thesaurus, good start, you game smartly after fore playing in the backyard.
You’re Pointing out my grammar than have a mercy on your own.
Can I mention some of few, though I have very lil time to consume ma energy, ma efforts and ma time.

1.Your all passages are written in “simple sentence”, I thought your mentor has forgotten to tell you that passages must comprise of compound, complex and compound-complex sentences. Deduction of .25 marks in case of sentence type monotony.(critically evaluate your own performance)

2.Do you think, you have placed needs in your quote correctly, I am afraid you have committed subject-verb disagreement(indeed a grammar mistake), revise this sentence please!!!!

3. I thought nobody has even told the toddlers that compound sentence is joined by coordinative conjunction along with the introduction of comma.(just once you did try, but committed blunder in it)
Can I explain you, or you would pass some good judgments at your own. (for your info its very basic grammar)
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Exactly the reason why i along with countless others left.
This sentence itself constitutes another error.(punctuation mistake)

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Deleting posts, autocratic stances and whatnot have definitely led to a decrease in member contributions.
What more to say about this sentence the king of all grammar errors.

Have a mercy on me!!!!


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Thesaurus say rattay na maaro.
BTW.Thesaurus says not say!
Have another correction pleaZZZZZZZZ!
Don’t tell me your own good practices.

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Lastly, a shout out to last island, i do inderstand that maintaining and mediating such a forum, where the influx of input is mind boggling is definitely hard, if i can please let me give my 2 cents worth. Progress for the sake of progression ought to be curtailed and adequate use of power needs to defined and established. As the person to look "upto" on this forum, don't demean yourself by dealing with things with an iron fist and imposing your own views. I believe EVERY admin needs to know this. Rest assured last island, i hold your postion with great respect and awe. May you succeed in life and achieve what you aspire. No this is NOT laced with sarcasm, since we did have our ups and downs. Take care all of you. Keep the dream alive and keep up with its pursuit.
Getting inspired by my demeanors, I don’t know where this sense of awe was gone when last year iron lady was crying that fb group discussion is not permitted over here, infact it was Machiavelli who also backed up their humanitarian cause.
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Blame it on the selfishness of 2015 qualifiers or on the creator of facebook, whatever rocks your boat and helps you sleep at night...... I guess in our pursuit to excel we often tend to NOT view things on a holistic perspective, but rather on mundane shortsightedness.
How beautifully lectures are driven to us;while,the stuff that buckled ma mind are mundane shortsightedness, camouflaged holistic approach or reattributed extreme verbosity in your every post.
Phewwwww! what suggest you to me about this!!!!
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There is no complete freedom of expression in Pakistan, you may be penalised very strongly for expressing views that are deviant from the popular discourse and if those views have any western/liberal/secular/progressive connotations or even the bitter truth in them, then thats it. This is the sorry state of affairs of our beloved country, it pains me greatly but highlighting these things is the ultimate form of patriotism in my opinion. We hate waking up from a cosy bed in a cold morning, but it is important to wake up and face the world. Anyway, I am not an excellent person or good at English (just an average guy) but yes, I failed in English Essay and Islamiat, my aggregate marks were also below 50% (even if I had passed Essay and Islamiat).
Kingfalcon, i did remember good discussion related to pakistan affairs with you.This is the reason why i said that we are sailing in the same boat.Lets see this time what will happen with me.
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I'm sorry to say but some of comments in this thread perfectly corroborate my reason of leaving this forum. I surely had no specific person on my mind while writing these comments, if anyone related himself than it is none of my fault. I was talking in general perspective, I have been here for last 5 years and have seen many members come and leave, there are only few members whom I still remember. Those who have been defensive and apologetic in this thread, it is their self proclaimed guilt, I don't think they are that important that I would think about them even, let alone remember them.

Furthermore, my concerns have been shared by few other senior members as well. About the value of my opinion on [Uthesis statement or other aspects of Competitive exams, I just want to say demonstrated proof is more valid than any other theory or opinion[/U]. You keep asking for proofs and I have tested what I believe in and I know it works, that's it! If you think what you think is right, just do one thing: Perform. Nothing silences your critics better than performance.

Best Regards,
Bilal Hassan
May my all respect and gratitude bestowed upon you, can I ask you a simple question?
Look what Allah says in the quran:
kul ha too burhan na Kum in kun tum sadgeen.
P.S.Have I been inspired by such personality than my dear respected senior i thought, i need not to poke ma nose in this forum, since one such example is my approximate neighbors.
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I used to be one of those CSS Forum members who would visit everyday to see the latest posts and post my comments on them. It has been 4 to 5 years since I became a member of this prestigious forum. But for many months, I've been too much busy in my life that I could not find ample time to be on this forum and render my service related to CSS guideline which could be fruitful for the newly joined aspirants. I, as a failed candidate of CSS, am willing to continue my CSS studies and appear for another time, as well as take some time out of my busy schedule to be with the members of CSS forum. I hope for a happy augury for my future.

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I was goddaman sure about this, anyways don’t prolong such discussion.


Another stereos, I am neither the by product of academies nor I got assisted from any csp. Don’t worry, my mentors have even serious reservations on fpscs standardized syllabus.

Enjoy good party.


hunnn!
First of all nobody has called you to follow ma bad piece of advise, secondly,
Do tell me than what is the difference b/w you and a madrassah type student .For your info I’m not dying for this css, I just fulfilled my teachers promise and that’s it.
In my world, there is no place for headless chicks.(I am not referring to you)


Have there been such a system than why I should lament someone .
Yeah, i already read the story of this nice and competent guy.Hence know better than you!
But again morality and rationality bhy kssy cheez ka nam hota he that doesn't exist in FPSC bazar.
1.I never said you are a product of an academy. It was just a conjecture to explain my reasoning.
2.I never said you are asking me to follow your advise. I was just saying that in reply to your "misguiding the masses" comment.
3.The difference between me and madrassah student you ask? As a matter of fact, I don't look down on Madrassah students. I think they are doing a job of preserving Holy Quran. As far as worldly affairs are concerned, I am a bit different because even though I do have a bit of knowledge about different perspectives relating to certain important topics, I would go with the most harmless, unoffensive and suitable for CSS one. This isn't called being a headless chick, its called TACT. By the way, if you are not dying to do CSS, then you shouldn't have any problem with seniors "misguiding the masses"
4.I am not trying to boost in anyway about my affiliation to @kingfalcon neither have I any affiliation to him. I don't care if you know more about him. I just gave an example that was suitable for the discussion.

Anyways, I know it is almost impossible to convince you about anything. So, Good luck to you. Feel free to reply to this post, but I won't be wasting any more words on this discussion.
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@Ursula

Please avoid netspeak and cute grammar. Use "My" instead of "ma" and "please" instead of "pleaz".


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Ursula, now that Bilal Hassan has clarified, I hope you stand corrected. What he has said in his second post here is exactly what I told you.

Btw, I regulalry visit the forum and did witness your debate with him in that essay thread. But again, he is a senior members and has debated with countless other members. That's why your reaction was quite disproportionate and uncalled for.

And I am not sure if you are the self-proclaimed heretic of this forum but then like Oscar Wilde says "I am not young enough to know everything."
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By the way, I wish to highlight an observation I made, maybe others will agree with me too and I hope we as Pakistanis will realise it. The observation is:

Whenever I see discussion on the internet among Pakistanis or Pakistanis and Indians etc, it always gravitates towards unnecessary arguments and blame games, name calling, swearing etc etc..

Whenever I see a discussion on the internet among Europeans/Americans, it is most of the time very very objective, intellectual and at times very witty, there is still some negative stuff here and there but by and large it is very intellectually stimulating, factual and of a high quality. They know how to do quality debate with a very high level of tolerance, maybe we lack this as a nation and need to work on this.

A request to all my Pakistani brothers and sisters, please learn from those people and don't let the world laugh at you, let the world think that whenever a Pakistani is on a forum/thread/fb post etc, he/she will always have very relevant and objective points.

I am not pointing out to anyone, just trying to share my observation for our greater good.
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