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no doubt this play is inspiring the girls but if u look upon the very assence of the play thn u will realize that the family background such girls have, make them so bitter and harsh. u must deem deeply in the life events of kasahaf thn u will realize that it is not all about authority it is all about struggle and self confidence.
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no doubt this play is inspiring the girls but if u look upon the very assence of the play thn u will realize that the family background such girls have, make them so bitter and harsh. u must deem deeply in the life events of kasahaf thn u will realize that it is not all about authority it is all about struggle and self confidence.
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I understand what you are going to say. In this darama, the Kashf is a sort of unnecessary Zidi Character. Infact, so far she is seen in inferiority complex throughout this darama. I want to bring in the notice of other girls on the forum that independence, love & respect dont mean you to become too much Zidi & Khabti type of personality. Due respect is demanded at both ends not from single end only. The concept of independence portrayed in this darama is totally negative one.
Wasim bhai you are the only person who has understood literally what i mean to say.....I just meant that the marriage is a very sacred relationship and this is a merger of two souls.....This must be based on mutual love and respect, the wife must obey her husband as he is his protector but not servility that i say we must expect from wives.....In this drama the lead character (Kashaf) has been depicted as an obdurate and unnecessarily headstrong girl which indeed is not a way to lead a happy married life.....
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when i with my family was watching drama my brother said(yah csp larkio ka tou dimag kharab ho jata ha yah husband ko kuch samjhti he nai)hamari Hamna bhi kashaf jasi he ho ge...
i have a question to all such mentality men what,s the problem they have with this character?
asal may problem app nay khud hee show kardi. ajj apnay bhai ki personal baat public karkay, kal apnay shohar ki karaygi allegedly, or isi liye shayad larkio per pabandi lagayi jati hai izat bachanay k liye ... if that is the JUST drama and DRAMA doesn't create mentality then this is JUST thread, it won't create mentality either !

to the thread maker: bhai yeh drama phr bhi acha hai kamaskam shohar ka thora buhat image acha diya hai warna to her pakistani dramay may villain shohar hota hai or hero boy friend jis per shohar ka dimag kharab hota hai or wo retaliate karta hai to kaha jata hai daikho shohar kitnay narrow minded hotay hian apni bv ko boy friend bhi rakhnay nai daytay ! lol
further hum mard hee kehtay hai k jo larki ziyada kich kich karti hai us ka character acha nai ab is may sober aka zidi panay ko promote kiya hai to wo bhi problem ? or rahi baat education to wo to haq hai larkio ka even in islam . (i got your point and know you aren't against women edu.)


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Mr sarang ali shaikh i have full right to reply you as u have pointed me out. and your request is quite ignored.

what my brother said i mentioned here just to tell thinking of a male towards this drama.i havent asked for your stupid opinion neither i need your comment.he is my brother and it depends on me to make public his comment or not..Who the hell are you to talk about my brother or what my husband will say.ap pabandi apni family ki larkio pa laghain apni izat bachanay kay liay...dont cross your limits.
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Dude, U will have to get married twice.

One with submissive, down to earth & slave sort of person.
Other with bureaucrat who could move with you in Social circle.

On serious note: Consider your and your partner’s intellect before tying the knot. Dont pick a random person as your partner.

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nai yar aik he afford kr len to kafi hy...humen chahye k aik he ho nut us k sub haqooq thek sy ada kr ske...but for your information i know many bureaucrat girls even in DMG who are intelligent, conservative as well as reasonably social as well so my friend this is wrong to say that both things are contradictions.....
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Dear Alhamdulilah, Islam does not give permission to a husband to make his wife a slave.
Sabah i never meant that wives should be kept as slaves, our Holy Prophet clearly told the rights of wives in Last Sermon and wives should be given love, affection and everything legitimate they want.....but excess of everything is bad.....The wife must not ask for a thing that is beyond parameters.....Yes indeed their rights as given by Shariah must be given otherwise we are liable to be questioned on the day of judgement.....
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This thread has opened my mind to some extent. We males have to change our mind. We want a highly educated, beautiful and an obedient life partner but we dont like if she get a high position or show talent then we (males) become jealous of her. This is a fact
My dear friend you misunderstood me, if she achieves something, that is her right and a matter of proud for her family....provided her aspiration are legitimate and won't bring any ignominy to her family and husband....
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You said "Many friends of mine (girls) are seeing in themselves a Kashaf, they want to be independent and authoritative just like her....."

So You are of the view girls should not be independent and authoritative..
then why our parents are giving us lectures to be independent and confident.means their training is wrong.why they are making us strong like the character..


and as it has embroiled bureaucracy as well in that drama and we all are aspiring for CSS, i think it is misleading the girls...we have some values that have to be kept intact, i am in favor of woman emancipation but within certain parameters.....

and what are those parameters to be a slave?or slave of ur moods?

"I become a bureaucrat (insha ALLAH), i would like to marry an educated girl, she may be a bureaucrat too, if the girls would make their minds just like Kashaf then it would just disturb the married life."

sorry to say but you have dual standard,it was past when girl was educated,bureaucrat and slave of men..time has changed.so better to adopt yourself with the modern realities.

"the purpose of this thread is also to at least make the girls realize that what this drama depicts is somewhat wrong"


So you mean a girl who is aspiring to be a csp she does not know what this drama depicts..Be rational today,s girls are more wise take the example of all fields where women are at top position.

obeying their husbands is not a bad thing at all and they are their Majazi Khuda too....."

sabahatbhutta is very right that Islam does not give permission to a husband to make his wife a slave.Being Khuda demands being extreme affectionate, extreme loving, extreme tolerant and having extreme quality of pardoning, like real khuda does even when we don't offer prayer a single time in a day. If you really want to become Mijazi Khuda then my dear fellows its extreme difficult for you.
My friend i acquiesce with your points but again i would say i have been misunderstood.....
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...... or isi liye shayad larkio per pabandi lagayi jati hai izat bachanay k liye ... if that is the JUST drama and DRAMA doesn't create mentality then this is JUST thread, it won't create mentality either !
Very weak sort of dignity you have. You want to say and do anything but if your sister, wife or daughter speaks about it, it becomes a threat to your dignity? You have shown the weakness of personality and character of male lot. Yes it is only a thread and it won't create any impact on mentality but at least it is showing the chauvinistic behaviour of some people who take every pinch of thing to their dignity.



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to the thread maker: bhai yeh drama phr bhi acha hai kamaskam shohar ka thora buhat image acha diya hai warna to her pakistani dramay may villain shohar hota hai or hero boy friend jis per shohar ka dimag kharab hota hai or wo retaliate karta hai to kaha jata hai daikho shohar kitnay narrow minded hotay hian apni bv ko boy friend bhi rakhnay nai daytay ! lol
further hum mard hee kehtay hai k jo larki ziyada kich kich karti hai us ka character acha nai ab is may sober aka zidi panay ko promote kiya hai to wo bhi problem ? or rahi baat education to wo to haq hai larkio ka even in islam . (i got your point and know you aren't against women edu.)


to all burgers, this was just my personal view DO NOT reply (to me) some allegedly cool stuff to get bunch of THANKS. request !! ALLAH HAfIZ

If this thread is specifically about the drama then dear there is no such thing as boy friend issue in this drama. Neither any of us talked about or favoured this act.
And if that was your personal view you should have kept it to yourself. By sharing it here you have given rights to all people to retaliate. And dear develop some sort of patience to listen to others view as well.. Aap k Kaam aye ga Life main
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Kashaf is shown as ziddi just becausr of her insecurity, the way her life has turned in ger family life had made her stubborn and independent to its extent. For most of the males this is a negative approach, bt a girl who has fear of trusting 'a man', how can she trust blindly to her husband whrn her father was so cruel to hrr family. Her behaviour is just a protective cocoon not to be hurt.

Don't make it an ego or chuivanism problem of yours. And when a male member here how in indignified way said that gher ki baatein baher nikalti hain is liye females are not trustworthy. Then i totally agree with sabahatbhutta k first they should learn how to treat a woman. If they can't do that then definitely don't flatter yourself with the position of Mijaazu Khuda. Bht dil gurda aor himmat chahiye iss position ko apni biwi ki nazroun main achieve krne k liye.
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nai yar aik he afford kr len to kafi hy...humen chahye k aik he ho nut us k sub haqooq thek sy ada kr ske...but for your information i know many bureaucrat girls even in DMG who are intelligent, conservative as well as reasonably social as well so my friend this is wrong to say that both things are contradictions.....
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