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Lets hope so , keep our fingers crossed and PRAY to ALMIGHTY!
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If you go through page1 of the proposed NAC bill the parliament is bent upon getting it passed w.e.f 01-10-2002 which means a total exoneration from the charges levelled against President Zardari which I think will make this bill controversial I THINK. What does the forum suggest I would like to hear that!
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If you go through page1 of the proposed NAC bill the parliament is bent upon getting it passed w.e.f 01-10-2002 which means a total exoneration from the charges levelled against President Zardari which I think will make this bill controversial I THINK. What does the forum suggest I would like to hear that!
I think the cases pertaining to president zardari cannot be closed by taking its date of effectiveness from 2002 because he has been president for 5 years and 5 years are still there to be proceeded under NAC bill/act. e.g. cases reported during 2001 cannot be proceeded under NAC being more than 10 years older, but cases reported during 2004 will be proceeded under this act being 8 years older. However, it will certainly give immunity to all politicians, bureaucrats, military and other civilians including zardari, who committed fishy thing before 2002 and all will be happy to vote in favour. Remaining notions of politicians like agitation, opposition to bill etc are just political stunts.
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If you go through page1 of the proposed NAC bill the parliament is bent upon getting it passed w.e.f 01-10-2002 which means a total exoneration from the charges levelled against President Zardari which I think will make this bill controversial I THINK. What does the forum suggest I would like to hear that!
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I think the cases pertaining to president zardari cannot be closed by taking its date of effectiveness from 2002 because he has been president for 5 years and 5 years are still there to be proceeded under NAC bill/act. e.g. cases reported during 2001 cannot be proceeded under NAC being more than 10 years older, but cases reported during 2004 will be proceeded under this act being 8 years older. However, it will certainly give immunity to all politicians, bureaucrats, military and other civilians including zardari, who committed fishy thing before 2002 and all will be happy to vote in favour. Remaining notions of politicians like agitation, opposition to bill etc are just political stunts.
I think this is not a problem because neither nab is investigating any case against zardari nor nab is the only investigation institution as there is FIA too. Moreover Nab had two cases against zardari in which nab cleared him of any wrong doing. While there is no case against any federal minister or any other influential person which had been started before that given date so they dont have any benefit in this regard.
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I think this is not a problem because neither nab is investigating any case against zardari nor nab is the only investigation institution as there is FIA too. Moreover Nab had two cases against zardari in which nab cleared him of any wrong doing. While there is no case against any federal minister or any other influential person which had been started before that given date so they dont have any benefit in this regard.
Brother, size does not make the words stronger but logic does. You need to study the working of investigating institutions. Example for you. Money laundering will become jurisdiction of FIA, NAB, ANF if links found with terrorists, Govt: officers or drug dealers respectively unless ordered by the competent authority. NAB by its act and spirit, is the only institution free of govt pressure and Who told you that there are no cases against Federal Ministers prior or after 2002?
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contacted one senior judge and discussed with him the matter .he said in ur case u guys can follow 2 strategies simultaneously .....

1 : demand Nab high ups to grant u conditional offer letters mentioning that"ur selection has been made subject to the vacation of stay orders"

2: use media and other avenues and also make an appeal to chief justice Islamabad High Court by writing letters and sending E-mails to him and his registrar to take notice of the stay , intervene and lift the stay .....else nothing substantial would be achieved as the bench that had issued stay orders those judges hv nt been granted extention and their seats are lying vacant ...also , it would take more than a year to fill these vacancies of Judges....now decide urself that r u guys going to wait for a year so that new judges may assume charge and ur matter is taken up by them ........mind u ..applications in thousands will make a difference else it wont draw their attention

previous months me hearing he nh hui case ke...so how r u expecting that stay would be lifted without we play our part and expect of others to do it on our behalf..
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contacted one senior judge and discussed with him the matter .he said in ur case u guys can follow 2 strategies simultaneously .....

........mind u ..applications in thousands will make a difference else it wont draw their attention
I agree on first point. We should ask them to issue us conditional offer letters. Waiting for response of other members on this.
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I agree on first point. We should ask them to issue us conditional offer letters. Waiting for response of other members on this.
As if they will comply to our demand :O
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They have not even displayed the final merit list and you people are talking about issuing conditional offer letters I dont think that this will be their course of action.
Yes media can be approached but do we have the right people on this forum who can accomplish that ? I will be glad to hear that!
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The question is "why would NAB will issue conditional letters and what purpose will it serve to them?" There are least chances that conditional letters will be issued. We can, however, raise our voice requesting NAB to clarify the uncertainty as unrest is prevailing among candidates. Many deserving and qualified candidates are no more interested in NAB due to unpromising future. It is also better to wait for negative or positive outcomes of NAC bill as it will settle down many issues. It will also help many candidates already in jobs.
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