as far as education is concerned, css aspirants are more educated than an army personel who join the forces mostly after their FSC... i admit that a CSP officer may not fight with that courage and bravery with which a soldier fight, than how could a soldier can run a administration while he had learnt only battlefield tactics....if this happens then results are always before us in form of a destructive dictatorship...no offence to anyone,this was just an argue that came to my mind i love my army only when they are at borders, not in administrative offices....

how much age relaxation is given to army officers.

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her kisi ko itni ahmiat do jitni wo tumhain deta hai,agar kam do gay to magror kehlao gay igar ziada do gay to khud gir jao gay.

SAme question here, any one who has solid information please reply to this question.

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military bureaucracy are 2 different things.our country cannot run without both of them.soldiers are trained and groomed for defense and bureaucrats are trained and groomed for common people policy making.

AoA to all the members,

I just want to clarify this point that now a days Army has made strict rules for joining Civil Service or making a shift through lateral entry. Now there is a wing of Career planning in GHQ that itself decides upon the OEI (Officer Efficiency Index) of each officer and make recommendations to the FPSC regarding 40 or 50 names of the prospective candidates. Then the FPSC takes their interview and select 8 or 10 (depending upon the seats) in Police, DMG or Foreign Service depending upon the merit + Choice.

Regarding Army officers being brave and intelligent there is no doubt but this was not the point in issue in previous posts. The point is why institutional quota is allocated to Army??? Being an Army officer requires different set of qualities and its different for becoming a Civil Servant. The problem is that we are already facing unemployment in civil sector so why to allocate 10 odd prestigious posts to Army when the Army is itself offers a bright career path?

Anyhow this discussion should be taken as discussion and not a duel between Army and 'Bloody Civilians' - a title that is given to us all

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Typical military induced biaseness.I think army should resort to doing what it's role is,because currently there are big question marks over its determination and professional excellence.No way in the world should they be allowed to meddle with administration and civilian affairs.We do not need battlefield experience in civil services.By comparing the education and determination of army with that of civil servants,please do not open another pandora's box of a debate.This 10% quota is highly biased and unjust.Putting up Intermediate qualified people with the cream of the nation,well....there's a reason we mess up our administration.Period

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Hamza salick is right. Civil service should be for civilians.

Bro it used to be a case (in some good old days) with Armed forces officers that they used to surmount common people by virtue of their talent and training but now its their background and reference that makes them through into armed services. In public administration one doesn't need to be "yes sir/no sir", its a bridge b/w public and government You had better stay on borders and do not change your priorities as we have already suffered too much.

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Right.Dhakkey se di hui BSC ki degree ko kon manta hey.Punjab University declined their request to award armed forces personnel a BA degree,as they weren't of the 'level required to obtain a B.A from Punjab University.NUST se li gai BSc degree army officers k lye isi tarah he jaise me appne gharr me ek university khol k sub family members ko PhD ki degree jaari kurne lag jaoon.

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the army personls have Bsc degree thats 14 years of education...
while many of us who are appearing in css written exams have 16,17 years of education and sum are even 18 years of education are more which appear after mphil.....
this is totally unjustification with we civilians.....but wo kehty hain na jis ki lathi uski bhains