In a strange incident in the history of Pakistan, the police arrested around 100 PCS officers from Punjab civil secraterate on Friday. ! The arrested include Add. secrateries, Dep. Secrateries, Section officers and some female officers as well.
They were protesting against the posting of CSS officers on high posts in the provinces and ignoring them for promotion and important postings.
This tussle between the two groups is going on for past many years and inspite of intervantion from high level, is not coming to an end. What the member think ? Is the CSS officers group really usurping the rights of PCS officers in Punjab. ?

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Addressing the protest, Rai Manzoor Nasir demanded the registration of cases against additional chief secretary and DSP police under criminal sections for illegally detaining two section officers. They also chanted slogans against the District Management Group (DMG) officers and declared their postings in the provincial administration illegal and unconstitutional. Nasir said the Punjab chief minister constituted a committee last year to address the grievances of PMS officers. The committee held several meetings but the grievances were not addressed, he said. He announced that from Saturday (today) the PMS and Secretariat Employees Association would observe strike till removal of DMG officers from the province.
“The District Management Group (DMG) has been usurping the posts of the provincial officers on the basis of unconstitutional IPCC formula. The DMG has manoeuvered posting under a formula which is not notified and is not covered by any law. Under this illegal formula, a total of 800 DMG officers are usurping 65 percent posts of grade 21 in the provinces while more than 4,000 provincial officers have been given only 25 percent posts. Out of 43 posts of provincial secretaries 40 are under the occupation of the DMG officers. Out of 9 posts of commissioners, 8 are from DMG,” PCSA officers said in a statement
They said the association president has decided that no officer will get bail and the remaining officers will court arrests on Saturday. Officers from all over the province will gather in Lahore to lodge protest and court arrests.
No FIR was registered against the arrested officials till the filing of this report as police was waiting for direction from the Punjab chief secretary to proceed against the held officials.

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Infact,Two officers were distributing Pamphlets for a strike,which was to be observed on March 21.Security officials tried to stop them forcefully,which resulted into this unfortunate incident.Irony is that top brass of Punjab government also preferred to use force for stopping PCS officers to go on strike.Today,DCO Lahore Ahad cheema imposed section 144 in certain areas around civil secretariat.



Lahore: The judicial magistrate in Lahore ordered the release of all arrested Civil Service officers in exchange of surety bonds of Rs500 each.
Seventy-four officers including their president Rai Manzoor were arrested on Friday while protesting against the Punjab government and the District Management Group (DMG) officers.
The police presented all the officers in the judicial magistrate’s court and the prosecution requested for their seven-day physical remand.
The prosecution said that the senior government officers had taken law in their own hands and disturbed official work while protesting.
However, defence lawyers said that all the arrested officers were running vital state affairs and called the allegations against them baseless.
Manzoor told the media that the police was torturing them after the arrest and announced to continue their movement against the government until they get their rights.

Court orders release of civil service officers – The Express Tribune

its a matter of great shame that DMG officers have crosses all limits. Reason is, that already the rights of PCS officers are being usurped by the DMG officers. How many secretaries are from PCS cadre?
So it they were protesting it was for valid cause. And instead of listening to them DMG officers have used force.

YouTube - PCS Association Seminar & Rally Against DMG Officers Pkg By Rizwan Naqvi & Qauser Khokhar.flv

I have observed that the PCS officers are of much less caliber since they do not even have etiquettes of speaking. Their representative Rai Manzoor Nasir is a dirty and uncultured man. I have no connection with the DMG. I used to be sympathetic to them but now I feel that the DMG is serving them right. These self serving idiots should be taught a lesson. They dont even deserve to be called civil servants. I've never seen a DMG sink so low.

I now firmly PCS is disgusting and they're getting what they deserve. I wonder what would happen to the country if the higher management of the counrty also comes from people like these PCS hooligans.

If the PCS Officers may not be given rights, the illusion will be the same as i espied in Sectt. The significant posts distribution formula proposed by the PCS Union was approved after some negotiation by the Executive Administration (DMG's) in July 2010. But as i observed that until know, not mere the breach of promises performed but rude stance were adopted with them while official chores. One the other hand a DMG Officer, as prescribed practice, have to be promoted in BS-18(OPS) just after three years of service besides this a PSS/PCS/PMS officer is required 12 to 15 years service for furtherance which is also infringe with constitution. Although the factor of diplomatic elements involved in this campaign is not denied. But they ought to be served niche rights as they are also competitors.

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It is unbecoming on the part of Provincial Service officers to act against the official code of conduct. They are fomenting provincialism to secure their own follies. Rai Nasir, the father of all agitators, should be ousted from the service for good. Provincial civil servants are infamous for their corruption & bias towards their federal counterparts and the current spate of their disturbance is an apt example of the parochial mindset. As far as their struggle against DMG is concerned, it is important to note that DMG forms the cream of Civil Service of Pakistan and its officers are selected through the Civil Services Examination which is conducted at the all Pakistan level. They are selected and then trained to serve at the highest echelons of administration whereas PMS was originally created (according to constitution PMS ACT 2004) to serve at the lower levels of provincial administration. So DMG & PMS are completely different occupational groups and it is totally unconstitutional, unrealistic and unethical for PMS Officers to protest against those officers who are constitutionally empowered to serve at higher administrative positions (DMGs).
It is also important to mention that almost all the legitimate demands of PMS are already met but still PMS officers are not happy.
SHAME ON PMS!!!!!

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Well, i often visit civil secrateriat as i have friends belonging to both groups there. What i found is that both the groups are suspecious of each other and speak a lot against other group in their private sittings. PCS group think that it is their right to be posted on important posts in province while the CSS group think that PCS officers lack the necessary skill and knowledge to be posted on important seats. They also claim that majority of the PCS officers are those who first appeared in CSS exam but rejected and then they appeared in PCS exams and passed.
On the other hand, the PCS group says that CSS officers used their network to get prized posting and seniors sitting in Islamabad support them in their efforts to sideline the PCS officers.
Some of the arguments of both the groups may be true but for the sake of efficient administration their must be harmony between both the group for the development of Province. Lets see what is the outcome of this tug of war.

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If PCS officers are such a low callibre, its responsibility is at DMG officers, sitting in PPSC who select duffers in Provincial services.

Please see, my argument is not that the way PCS officers used language is correct. Its condemnable. but we should see, that if they would be supressed such a sentiment is must to be developed. So as the name suggests PCS officers are meant to do the civil service affairs in the provinces.

So if their language and behaviour was not upto standard, please keep in mind these DMG officers are not that much decent. I have myself seen a clear bias towards PCS officers. DMG oficers attitude with PCS subordinates in v much rude.

Lastly, please see their demands are in accordance with rules. So RULES should prevail, not the wishes of DMG. Whatever, the rules are, its binding on DMG and PCS officers both. So they should be given due share whatever is allowed under rules.
That's it

Agreed..There should be harmony between PCS/PMS and DMG officers.
I was just thinking that why is this tussle only in Punjab??

Despite lacking necessary skill ,why in other provinces PCS officers are given their due share in higher posts?Khalid Sherzai is PCS Officer,and he is commissioner Kohat.
I believe Punjab government should address the grievances of PCS officers.Otherwise government should abolish all Provincial Civil Services/Provincial Management Services.Recruitments should be made in grade 17 via css exams only.

Regards.