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Economic growth is directly proportional to activity of people seeking economic and career opportunities through fair means and political stability is directly proportional to people seeking to get in power and enforce some of their ideology, vision etc. As both Economic progress and Political stability require people's activities to be in a relative direction, economic growth is indirectly proportional to political stability (theory by me ). Har mulk main logun kee aksariat economic aur career opportunities ke peeche hee bhagti hai aur political activity buhut saare traditional, cultural yaa religious compromises ke tahat qaim hui hoti hai laikin hamare haan masla yeh hai ke hamare pass is tarah ke traditional yaa cultural yahan tak ke religious compromises tak kaa wajood nahin hai aur sone pe suhaga yeh ke hamara mulk aik zarai mulk hai jis kee economy logun kee majority ko economic aur career opportunities nahin deti. isi waja se logun kee majority siasat main aake apne liye economic opportunities talash karti hai aur ultimately siasat kisi nazriye ke tahat chalne ke bajaye hamare mulk main aik economic resource kee haisiat ikhtiar kar chuki hai (jis kaa sab se bara saboot mulk main hone waali corruption hai jis kaa kisi na kisi tarah se link siasat se milta hai). yeh practice mulk ke qaim hone ke waqt se jaari rehne kee waja se logun ke zehno main itni deep beth chuki hai filhal hamari samajh main nahin aata ke is se nikla kaise jaaye (another theory by me ).
great theories, really difficult to understand and i think this is the success of any philosophical theory jo kisi ko easily samajh na aa sake
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great theories, really difficult to understand and i think this is the success of any philosophical theory jo kisis ko easily samajh na aa sake
well actually i was to come to the point that agriculture sector and private business ownership should be more regularized and should work more corporately . thats the need of time . kabhi kabhi apne dimaagh kee baat dosrun ko samjhana buhut mushkil ho jaata hai . meri nazar main politics aur economics do mukhtalif cheezen hain aur yeh aik doosre ko indirectly affect karte hain .
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Default economic progress vs political stability

it is wild goose chase to attain and maintain economic progress without having a stable democratic political system.pakistan,s constitutionl abeyance and institutional parlysis in the past 63 years made it least developed country. Economic growth demands peaceful domestic environment with strong constitutionalism, institutional strength and reformed econmic agenda .
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it is wild goose chase to attain and maintain economic progress without having a stable democratic political system.pakistan,s constitutionl abeyance and institutional parlysis in the past 63 years made it least developed country. Economic growth demands peaceful domestic environment with strong constitutionalism, institutional strength and reformed econmic agenda .
siasat to hamari lagta hai agle 100 saal tak aisi hee rahe gee . kiyun na logun ko siasat se dur kia jaaye . agar agriculture aur private businesses ko corporate sector main laaya jaaye aur corporations ko legal status dia jaaye aur un ke liye jo code of ethics banaya jaaye us main un ko siasat se har tarah se pak rakha jaaye aur law enforcement main judiciary ko full involve kia jaaye to aik aisa culture ban sakta hai jis main log siasat se door bhagen aur apne careers pe focus rakhen . corruption kee aik main waja yeh hai ke har koi chahta hai ke kahin na kahin se paisa haath kar ke apna business bhi establish kare taake us ke baal bache agli pushton tak us se khayen, agar business establish karna corporation establish karne jaisa mushkil ho jaaye jis se us business main employment karne waale kaa career wabista ho jaaye to corruption kee aik waja khatam ho sakti hai aur logun ko career opportunities bhi buhut ziada mil sakti hain . kaisa laga point . hope now iam making it comprehensible .
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well actually i was to come to the point that agriculture sector and private business ownership should be more regularized and should work more corporately . thats the need of time . kabhi kabhi apne dimaagh kee baat dosrun ko samjhana buhut mushkil ho jaata hai . meri nazar main politics aur economics do mukhtalif cheezen hain aur yeh aik doosre ko indirectly affect karte hain .
indirectly nahi..............i think directly effect karti ha.........becz of political and domestic stablity you cant imagine progress in any ecnomic field..........my point of view
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i think political situation sa zayada energy short fall and rise of labour prices ha is ki reason
Energy shorfall is also due to political inefficiencies.Political framework gives our politicians the power.So,one way or the other politicians are responsible for all our problems.We are not lacking resources.Why not IPI has been implemented till date?Who is responsible for for ensuring an equilibrium between demand and supply of electricity?when there is a political unrest politicians priorities change etc tec

I think if you want to analyse the economic situation in musharafz era then you should look economic indicators like GDP,rise in per capita income etc instead of looking at individual/isolated sectors of economy.whether musharafz era progress was on some solid grounds and of sound economic policies or just a balloon is debatable.

The present govt remained instable throughout its tenure.It has not been allowed to work right from the beginning(who is responsible for this is debatable).They were busy protecting their kursees throughout.How a prime miniter,president and ministers can perform if they are all the time going into courts,facing serious allegations from army,opposition etc etc.One issue after the other.and then one another issue after all issues etc...

political stability does not only mean absence of marshall law.It should be seen through a larger lens.

Political stability can only be achieved if clean politicians are send to parliament.Choor lootarey qatil is mulk ko kya de saktey hain.nothing.
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indirectly nahi..............i think directly effect karti ha.........becz of political and domestic stablity you cant imagine progress in any ecnomic field..........my point of view
well you are rite, without political and domestic stability economic progress becomes very difficult to attain, but it does not become unimaginable in my view. jis tarah politics economy ko theek kar sakti hai usi tarah economy politics ko bhi theek kar sakti hai, mere khayal main .
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well actually i was to come to the point that agriculture sector and private business ownership should be more regularized and should work more corporately . thats the need of time . kabhi kabhi apne dimaagh kee baat dosrun ko samjhana buhut mushkil ho jaata hai . meri nazar main politics aur economics do mukhtalif cheezen hain aur yeh aik doosre ko indirectly affect karte hain .
do mukhtalif chezen he ak dusre ko affect krt hain, so is the case with economy and politics!!!and now your point is well understood, thanks for explanation.
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siasat to hamari lagta hai agle 100 saal tak aisi hee rahe gee . kiyun na logun ko siasat se dur kia jaaye .
I think this is not the solution of problem because this sort of experiments are already performed in the era of marshal laws, dictators tried their best to keep the civilians away from politics. The need of the time is to change the system, instead of keeping people away from politics, we should encourage politics at ground level so that new politicians could emerge. Nazim system was a good step but unlikely corrupt people came through it and instead of giving people right to kick these corrupt politicians out and vote the others, our so called democratic government ruined the whole system. In early era of independence, our establishment instead of believing on votes of people, took over the civilian government. Instead of keeping people away from politics, we should believe in votes of people and this is the only way through which we can change our politics within few decades.
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I think this is not the solution of problem because this sort of experiments are already performed in the era of marshal laws, dictators tried their best to keep the civilians away from politics. The need of the time is to change the system, instead of keeping people away from politics, we should encourage politics at ground level so that new politicians could emerge. Nazim system was a good step but unlikely corrupt people came through it and instead of giving people right to kick these corrupt politicians out and vote the others, our so called democratic government ruined the whole system. In early era of independence, our establishment instead of believing on votes of people, took over the civilian government. Instead of keeping people away from politics, we should believe in votes of people and this is the only way through which we can change our politics within few decades.
bolne se kaam nahin chalta na, dictators khaali bolte hain aur danda chalate hain aur khali danda kuch nahin karta ulta counter productive ho jaata hai aur logun ko aur bhi ziada politicize kar deta hai. aik to dictators ke pass waise bhi moral aur legal authority nahin hoti aur ooper se un kaa dimagh aamrana hota hai aur us se bhi ooper se woh pure mulk ko brigade yaa corps kee tarah chalate hain. unhoon ne aaj tak aise laws nahin banaye ke jis se real economic reforms aa saken, woh sirf waderoon ke saath jor tor kar ke apni hukumat chalate hain.
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