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If a person wants to see pencil in the glass of water the pencil cannot be broken as been seen by the person. Same thing happened to mhmmdkashif .The question is who determines and executes economic policy politicians or economists? Political instability causes economic downfall. Prudent political policymaking strengthens economic functioning in smooth order.
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The problem with Pakistani economy is it does not have a modern organic structure. Educated management (or middle, like us here on forum ) class has a very limited role restricted to organized corporations (for example banks, firms, corporations, cellular companies etc) but most of the economy (for example agriculture, many other kinds of private businesses, even transportation and supply chain to a large extent) works on a Feudal "hasil karo aur chalao" lines where owners (who own a resource through buying or investing) directly interact with workers and management has no legal role and authority to play. This type of economic setup causes not only bad management of resources but also repression of workers who do not find anyway to progress and become hopeless; thus they try to resort to either unfair means, look for messiahs, join politics or become religious zealots etc. Ironically same Feudal who caused repression in first place now changes face as a politician and starts talking sweetly, getting poor people loans and charity etc and try to become their messiah. They even cover up illegal activities of "the poor and oppressed" to gain their political support. The state is then compelled to serve Feudal interests since they now also have political upper hand besides just economical. Political clash of interests then causes not only political instability in the country but also violence and disorder, because Feudal has their own dictatorial mindset and is in control of people both economically and politically. And educated middle class has to suffer the consequences of sin they never did and wait for political stability to come before they can work. If Pakistan is to improve, educated management (middle) class has to insert itself legally in all the economic spheres and take away some rights from owners (or upper class of investors) either by force or through struggle. This will give fair chances of progress to workers (who can progress by making it up to management class through education and skill improvement) and hamper authoritarian control of resources and the state by Feudal. The sheep in Pakistani society is actually educated middle class who is not ready to fight for their rights and insert itself in the broad society. Do you see any politician working in that direction, tell me honestly . Only a new economic setup will shape a new society and a new society will shape new politics where no buffoon will be able to gather millions and disrupt social life for no solid reason. When a solid economic setup gives fair chances of progress to everyone and has its roots all across the country, it will serve to bring people closer and remove ethnic sentiments as well. India is not progressing because of continuity of political system alone, its progressing because it also inherited a better economic setup than ours and its middle class is gradually inserting itself into the society very successfully in virtually the same local political conditions as ours.
That my friends was all I was trying to prove in this thread . Pakistan needs an organic economic setup all over the land and things will improve only then . But sadly, we are not even budging towards such reforms . Over and out .
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Pakistan's problem is that Chor-uchakay become Rulers, they make policies which safeguard their monopoly over Industry and the big chunk of national wealth gets eaten by these Predators, who are the stakeholders with multinationals operating in Republic. Any Political system can yield results, even that of Adam-Khor-kabayal of mysterious lands of Africa, Provided its Run with Sincerity and keeping Welfare of the People in Mind!
Economy is always directly depended on Political Conditions, the example of Afghanistan is there to be learnt lessons from. In Pakistan the Political Mafias have their own economic interests to look after, thats why they don't do any effort, neither do they allow others to take any steps in order to make Pakistan a truly Welfare State. |
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aik misal haazir-e-khidmat hai . hamare mulk main kitne agriculture graduates hain jo berozgar phir rahe hain aur nokrian na hone kaa rona rote rehte hain aur siasat karte phirte hain yaa phir pesticide companies join kar lete hain jo ke bunyadi tor pe chemical companies hoti hain, magar hamari agriculture abhi tak purane tariqon se manage ho rahi hai. is se bari sitam zarifi aur kia ho sakti hai ke koi aik graduate bhi entrepreneur ban ke apne illaqe main field management kee company qaim nahin karta. agar koi aik company aisi ban jaaye jo ke corporate usulun pe qaim ho to woh landlords se contract haasil kar sakti hai aur local labor hire kar ke zaminen sambhal sakti hai aur jadid tariqe istimal kar ke production bhi barha sakti hai. is se aur logun ko rozgar bhi mile gaa aur economy kaa aik sector jo apni marzi aap ke tahat laissez-faire usulun pe chal raha hai woh bhi thora usulun pe chale gaa aur agriculture income pe state ko jo tax nahin milta woh bhi aana shru ho jaaye gaa. local logun ko bhi shoq hoga ke woh taalim haasil kar ke company main aage barhen. aik company kee kamyabi se dusri companies banen gee aur gradually aik ache culture kee bunyad bhi pare gee . middle class ko siasi tabdili kaa intezar karne ke bajaye apne aap ko mobilize kar ke society main in karna pare gaa, warna to koi nahin laata tabdili .
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And do you term newly born private electronic media of PAK as an assertion of middle class?
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I am just telling my personal views dear, so don't take anything seriously .
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jahan tak sawal hai public companies ka to us silsalay ma adam smith k corporations k barey ma hadshaat PAK jesi country ma 100 feesad durust sabit hon gey kiu k as we know waderay etc to hain hee istashali... (ma ap k idea sa bilkul mutafiq hon.infact yehee idea meray zehan ma bhi tha par sawal karnay ka maqsad sirf ye hai k jo bhi drawbacks hon ap k proposal ma un par bhi behas ho jaey ta k hamarey zehno ma jo ap na idea diya hai us k baray ma ziada sa ziada clarity a sakey.isi waja sa ma jan jan kar bhi tanqeed kar raha hon ta k is idea ko mazeed refine kiya ja sakey..hope you dont mind.hehe)
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Baqi rahi corporations kee monopoly, us ko manage karna government ke liye nisbatan ziada aasan rahe gaa bajaye in bhenson ke aage been bajane ke . Jaise jaise Feudal grip politics aur society se kamzor hoti jaaye gee waise hee government kaa aik naya welfare roop bhi logun ko nazar aane lage gaa aur aik behtar society wajood main aane lage gee .
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