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There may be some problems by doing shortlisting on the basis of GAT but it is only shortlisting for final award other things are also considered. |
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If a student have silver medal in BE and silver medal in ME and his GAT score is 60.At the same time an other student have have 60% in BE and 60% in ME and having GAT score 88.If short listing is performed on the basis of GAT.its for sure the person with GAT=88 will be short listed and a person with GAT=60 will not short listed. Do you think its fair ? I think shortlisting student on the basis of GAT is not fair with those students who have low GAT score. I think the during the short listing process HEC must have to consider the educational background also.Otherwise this is totally unfair. No I think criteria must be same for every type of scholarship because awarding authority is same.I think if there are even 2000 scholarship they have to follow the same criteria. I am sorry if you mind.I am just sharing my views. |
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Yes! Shortlisting based on GAT score only is fair, because this is only exam that all candidates have gone through. If a candidate is silver medalist from his/her university but brings just 60 GAT score, what can be said? Candidates are not from same university so medals, percentages and CGPAs can be different. |
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Every thing is in HEC's Hand there are experts available with HEC, they can make the better decisions about how to shortlist and how to select people. I have seen in the previous batches that most of the people selected were from renowned universities and has very good educational background. So the people finally selected has good educational background and good GAT score. |
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I am not saying to ignore the GAT. After all you have your own opinion, my opinion is that to ignore 16/18 year education is not fair, even universities working under HEC does not follow this criteria.They use GAT symbolically.They took their own test to give admission. Might be you know NUST,FAST and UET Taxila,I am not sure about UET Lahore.If this test is enough then why they took their own test and award admission ? |
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Regarding Subject expertise i think another standardized test based on subject such as GAT (SUBJECT) should also be used in addition to GAT general. But still the measuring test should be same for everyone. You can't just compare students on the base of their CGPA etc they vary greatly from university to university and do you think UETs , NUST, giki are same as private universities. And Why are you assuming that a person who has very good academic record can not get good marks in GAT and on the other hand you assume that a person having no knowledge about subject will get top marks in GAT. I am telling you from my experience a mediocre person can get 60 or above marks but getting 88 is not a possibility for such a person. But again uestp faculty develpment scholarships were for 36 fields or disciplines it is not even possible to have subject tests for each separate field. and besides GAT is held 4 times a year a person can be unlucky 1 ,2 ,3 times but he cant be unlucky all the times if you have potential then you will eventually get it . Most of the persons who get the scholarships are those who prepare for it for years. Last edited by Arain007; Thursday, July 04, 2013 at 09:08 PM. Reason: merged |
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I am not saying GAT is bad....I am not against GAT. I am not saying to take GAT subjective. Why all of you think I am against GAT ? I am against the selection procedure.I just saying to consider both to award scholarship.Nothing else. OK do you know after short listing the candidates on GAT basis How HEC make merit ?Which student will go to USA and which will not ? For your information they consider all your educational career. According to you people if GAT is so comprehensive exam then why HEC consider your educational background ? I will discuss this thing after sometime.In sha Allah you will say I was not wrong.So be there I will discuss it after 2nd week of july. I don't want to get angry people from me.I am sorry to to all if any of my statement hurt you. |
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i still dont understand what are you proposing ,do you want to give more weight age to percentages obtained in previous degrees? if yes then i also propose proper weightage should also be given to university standard and ranking. I sincerely hope you get selected in 90% scholarships then you will see that universities in America, Turkey and even in some German universities they use GRE for shortlisting of candidates. In most of the universities you get admission on the basis of GRE, motivation letter, reference letters and there are universities in america that require 167/170 in GRE for admission. i havent seen a single university in the world that uses percentage criterion for selection. These criterion of 30% matric 30% Fsc. 30% BSc Engineerin 10% this and that ....... have been invented by us. Last edited by waqsoh; Friday, July 05, 2013 at 07:47 AM. Reason: correction |
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I am just saying HEC have to consider both(GAT & Academic career). I agree with you that in USA many universities give admission on the basis of GRE. But dear you can not compare GAT with GRE and our educational system with US educational system. After all I don't want to make some hot talks here.People have different opinion.I have my opinion, might be I am wrong.I think its better to close discussion about HEC selection criteria. Wish you all the best.May Allah bless you all with success.Aamen |
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I don't know what update will HEC give this month on its website....End of August....???
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