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This sudden freedom for media is another Musharraf policy I strongly disagree with and it also sure is a disgrace for Islamic Republic of Pakistan, that we have a president that deserves this treatment. President of Pakistan is a representative of our nation's aspirations and feelings when he is abroad but Mr. Shameem did the representation this time.

Every Pakistani politician deserves a public flogging, who eats to his full while a poor Pakistani and his family starve. Do you know that during this Ramadan an average Pakistani has to think 10 times before he decides to buy tomatoes? Do you know their price? 80 Rupees! Daal, what was food of the poor has now become food for the elite. Poor have always suffered but now a middle class Pakistani is struggling to keep his family afloat. If we can get out of our clean elite neighborhoods, it is heart breaking to see our fellow countrymen hungry, desperate, frustrated. So, my dear countrymen do you seriously think a Pakistani who can't find anything decent to aftar his roza or who is trying to figure out how to make new clothes for his children on Eid, gives a damn what Mr. Shameem did in his sorry little life they are just disappointed he missed!

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I am not going how much corrupt he is, what he is doing to earn money etc, the thing is, Javed Choudhry a Media anchor, earning millions a month, living luxury life, why not a wealthy background politician can enjoy? He has money and now power in politics, he can pay his bills.
I understand your point but no he cannot enjoy it as long as he claims to represent Pakistanis. He cannot enjoy his new car as long as a Pakistani travels through a 30 year old bus that should be in a museum. He can never know how does it feel to pay 80 Rupees for tomatoes as long as his kid drives his BMW to KFC or Mac Donald's for his meals.
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1-----@all who supports media

No one has understood yet the theme of this discussion.
Actually,Abro wanted to proof how much media is pretending with our nation by highlighing such issues which are futile and against the symbol of pakistan.
When shoes were thrown over president bush who was against the humanity and in favour of realism,was being criticized like zardari sahab by american people? was american media airing programs against him despite of having knowledge that how much grudge he had for muslim ummah?


2---------@Waqar Abro
I do agree with you that our so called independent media,is more currupt than our politicians in which sense that it has more responsibility than our leaders.it is meant to air the reality rather than minting money by showing sinking people in floods.


3------------@All champions of this forum
IF media anchors can go for recording the reality of flood people,can not fetch food items with themselves?
They are claiming zardari was bad okay he is bad but how much they are sincere with our nation?
People are being shown on tv that they dont have enough food for holding and breaking fast but they are not asked by our media personnels to provide them basic commodities for livelihood?
are they not their brothers?
1--------As a matter of fact, the event was duly reported by all media groups in America. And he was criticed even more. American people made an effigy of Bush and hundreds of shoes were thrown on upon. In Washington DC, people showed so open fury. Even, this was satirically reported in american media.


2---------How can you say that media is more corrupt? Just an assumption.


3--------Firstly, it is not the responsibility of media to feed the people. What their duty is, they are doing it exceptionally. All the senior news anchors have been sent to far off areas to cover the situation.
Secondly, is it fair to say that media personnels should provide basic commodities, does it make sense? Is it media to whom we pay our tax? It's all in all government's responsibility.
Media can help them by raising the issue, offer marathon transmissions and they are doing. Who on Earth is telling the public about fund raising organiztaions, their telephone numbers and camps addresses?
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Dear Waqar,

You are distracting us from the title of topic. Be sure what you wana discuss here in this thread.

1. throwing of shoe

2. Baba's association with talibans

3. Deadliest floods

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4.Full suit of javed chudhry


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the act was really condemnable but to think that why shoes was thrown over the president.he should visit to UK but after taking the people in confidence because as the head of nation he must be with his people
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I condemn the shoo hurling over the president. Though, the president is charged with corruption cases but he is legitimate and elected president by the parliament and the provincial assemblies.
Secondly, the media should highlight political issues without bias and with equal coverage to all democratic parties.
Thirdly and important, if the shoe hurler is a Taliban or terrorist and charged with many cases then why the govt. does not ask the INTERPOL or UK police to arrest the culprit and repatriate to Pakistan?
Fourthly, no doubt, there is much aggression of the people against the president. There are numbers of ways to lodge protest against the govt policies. Shoe hurling issue and its highlight will weaken already the fragile democracy.
Let the people decide in the next general election regarding favor or against the current govt.

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Dear Waqar,

You are distracting us from the title of topic. Be sure what you wana discuss here in this thread.

1. throwing of shoe

2. Baba's association with talibans

3. Deadliest floods

OR

4.Full suit of javed chudhry


I hope you got my point.

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I am not distracting you at all whatever has been mooted in this thread,is highly concerned with the topic.

Throwing shoe has been condemned by many members of this forum and their sense of humour deserves an applaud.
Baba is also a main actor of this scenario.
Disastrous flood has not been discussed yet nay i asked anyone to throw light over it.
Full suit of javed choudhry is concerned with the topic in this sense that he is a part of our so called independent media which is meant to throw dust in the eyes of our blind nation by airing such programs which not only distort the image of pakistan at world level but also creating the feelings of ethnicity.
do u know,most of the people in remote area are saying,zardari is being portrayed as currupt due to his mother tongue likewise choudhries are saying whenever their leaders are being shown as currupt.Will this not create hurdle in future for us?

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do u know,most of the people in remote area are saying,zardari is being portrayed as currupt due to his mother tongue likewise choudhries are saying whenever their leaders are being shown as currupt.Will this not create hurdle in future for us?

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Dear,I strongly disagree with your this point. Infact,he is defamed and vilified on the basis of his actions not just of his mother tongue. Had he been visionary and sincere to this nation,he would have enjoyed much better reputation nowadays.

I dont want to prolong this debate to his insensitive approach to BB's murder investigation and his assets abroad. So it would be better if we restrict ourselves to the topic.

You should inculcate this,If media is wrong so are our fake degree holders.

And two wrongs don't make a right.

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Its highly perceived and believed that President Zardari is criticized because he is Sindhi and establishment cum media don't want a Sindhi as strong President anymore, I am receiving so many text forwarded messages from different friends living in Interior Sindh, they are just supporting Zardari sahab for his mother tongue, and asking media to stop such defamation policy.
(Poor minds!)

While the truth is, Media has Zardari-Phobia; they want everyone on board and disgrace everyone. Disrespecting a national leader like Prevez Mushraf, sometimes they hit on Benazir Bhutto, in future others will be on the scene, what does this indicates? Obviously that Media belongs some heinous lobby that is not in favor of Pakistan.

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Its highly perceived and believed that President Zardari is criticized because he is Sindhi and establishment cum media don't want a Sindhi as strong President anymore, I am receiving so many text forwarded messages from different friends living in Interior Sindh, they are just supporting Zardari sahab for his mother tongue, and asking media to stop such defamation policy.
(Poor minds!)

While the truth is, Media has Zardari-Phobia; they want everyone on board and disgrace everyone. Disrespecting a national leader like Prevez Mushraf, sometimes they hit on Benazir Bhutto, in future others will be on the scene, what does this indicates? Obviously that Media belongs some heinous lobby that is not in favor of Pakistan.

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Dear,wont it be an exaggeration to consider our this lot of politicians as angels?

dont you think actions speak louder than words?

If media has zardari-phobia, we have personality-phobia.


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Dear brother,

None is perfect, and they can not satisfy you, me and Waqar abro, don't expect 100%. They can make one happy, other angry and 3rd neutral.

All politicians are not angels, and angels are not politicians!

You, me have to believe on someone, we can’t step in the politics for now, measuring them all on one scale will be like welcoming another dictator.

President Zardari is facing Media trial; don’t you think next president will not face the same? What happened with previous President by the way?

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